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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 2:09 am 
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Believe it or not, I am hearing Paul roos has spoken to Brett Ratten regarding the senior position at Melbourne. Rats is on Paul Roos's short list and this could be the reason why Ratten wasn't appointed the interim coach while Clarkson recovers as the Melbourne role could filled within the next 4 to 6 weeks.


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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 8:28 am 
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trublu wrote:
Believe it or not, I am hearing Paul roos has spoken to Brett Ratten regarding the senior position at Melbourne. Rats is on Paul Roos's short list and this could be the reason why Ratten wasn't appointed the interim coach while Clarkson recovers as the Melbourne role could filled within the next 4 to 6 weeks.


..easy to believe he did a year there as midfield coach..

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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 9:54 am 
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trublu wrote:
Believe it or not, I am hearing Paul roos has spoken to Brett Ratten regarding the senior position at Melbourne. Rats is on Paul Roos's short list and this could be the reason why Ratten wasn't appointed the interim coach while Clarkson recovers as the Melbourne role could filled within the next 4 to 6 weeks.


How's your strike rate?

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Even taking into account the 6 tanking games at the end of 2007 Rattens win loss ratio at Carlton is better than Malthouses at Carlton
With 2007 60-59
Without 60-53
Maltouse is 16-17
So Ratts is still in front

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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 2:43 pm 
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ratts isnt in front.... because he is not deemed an afl worthy head coach by anybody....
how can he be in front?

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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 2:55 pm 
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Mick only got the gig because his mate Swann was doing the hiring??? Sounds like the hiring of Ratts. Throw that in with the closed sessions, tantrums in the box (rather than fist pumping), coaching from the sidelines and quoting stats in pressers and it is very similar. Not sure how some of you are letting him get away with it.


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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 2:59 pm 
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Love the ratts record... should guarantee him a coaching gig someday....huge intellect ... and ..
charismatic guy to boot!!!

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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 3:11 pm 
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bringing up charisma in this case is dull intellect.

Just admit you are prepared to let Mick get away with stuff that drove you into a spin with Ratts because that is who you are blindly barracking for.

Bit like the politics threads.


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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 3:50 pm 
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club.... are u saying youre barrracking for ratts???
Carn a ratts!!!!

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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 3:55 pm 
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I am cheering him on. I want him to be a winner.


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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 4:05 pm 
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well if u wanna be a winner one day little johnny, youd know who not to barrack for....

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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 4:09 pm 
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:lol: :lol:

Dr Strangelove?


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People's Elbow wrote:
moshe25 wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Right at the moment Ratts coaching record at Carlton is better than Malthouse coaching record at Carlton
Until such time malthouse's? Malvern - Malthouses record at Carlton is better than Rattens the decision to replace Ratten with Malthouse was flawed
It is that simple

By what measures exactly do you get that Ratten's record is better than Malthouse's?


A good measurement is surely finals success.

On that, I have Malthouse already drawn level with Ratten after just one season (one win each)


with a little help from our friends at Essendon*

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Rocco Iguana wrote:
People's Elbow wrote:
moshe25 wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Right at the moment Ratts coaching record at Carlton is better than Malthouse coaching record at Carlton
Until such time malthouse's? Malvern - Malthouses record at Carlton is better than Rattens the decision to replace Ratten with Malthouse was flawed
It is that simple

By what measures exactly do you get that Ratten's record is better than Malthouse's?


A good measurement is surely finals success.

On that, I have Malthouse already drawn level with Ratten after just one season (one win each)


with a little help from our friends at Essendon**

????????????

How did they help us? I don't follow you.

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Pagan had 5 or so uears but it was Parko and Brittains fault that we didnt suceed
Ratts had 5 or so years but it wasnt Pagans fault it was Ratts fault.
Now Malthouse has had nearly 2 years but its Ratts fault still.
How many years have to pass before it ceases being Ratts fault or Brittains fault or Parkos fault and start to become Malthouses fault
Or will it always be Sticks fault or Pratts or ??????

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Sydney Blue wrote:
Pagan had 5 or so years but it was Parko and Brittains fault that we didnt succeed
Ratts had 5 or so years but it wasnt Pagans fault it was Ratts fault.
Now Malthouse has had nearly 2 years but its Ratts fault still.
How many years have to pass before it ceases being Ratts fault or Brittains fault or Parkos fault and start to become Malthouses fault
Or will it always be Sticks fault or Pratts or ??????

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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 6:24 pm 
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pagan had a list in declin handed to him...
he had no money
the man that had the most resources to play with (coaches players picks .. was ratten..)
so far we dont have proper leadership
the picks...


you dont expect with all those picks that we would still be last do you syd? ... and if we won one eliminational final... youd think thats some ripper coaching do you??

youre not going to bag pagans coaching record or malthouses are you? ..and hold up rattens coaching record as some kind of beacon to brilliance ??

are you really???

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I dont give a shit about their records at other clubs .im only interested in their record at carlton and so far rattens is better than both of them

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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 7:48 pm 
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I hear from hawthorn mates that their club thinks Ratts can coach, he's a good coach. It was about continuity in roles.

I don't think Ratts would mind. The pressure of being senior coach is something he's probably not missed.

As far as his time at Carlton he was given a role he clearly wasn't ready for and learned on the job as quickly as possible. The fault is his in as much as he put his hand up for it, but most of the blame should go to the Board and mates mentality prevalent then. I admire Ratts' ability to learn as he did and aim for clear criteria which he thought he was meeting. The Boards pressure for unrealistic results given the awful recruiting placed real shackles on him. This created a ceiling effect on his chances. Having now spent time at a top club I would be confident he would know which players have it and which don't, as MM knows. He would be more ruthless and rounded as a senior coach.


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