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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 7:31 am 
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Back on topic.

Make no mistake, this next phase of leadership at the club is the most significant in our history. Why? Because for nearly 20 years, we never looked like ever winning a flag or being a powerful club, as Geelong has created, and Hawthorn are creating with the success they've shared. You could add Sydney to that lot, too.

The decisions made from here on will have massive ramifications to this club, not just because we have to get better, but importantly to transition and transform this club from a VFL club to a truly modern day AFL club.

I remember in the 70's, 80's, and in the early to mid 90's, I used to walk to Princes Park to watch our home games, and knew we would win, no matter who we were playing. It was a case of margin. Of course, we were always guttered when we lost on the rare occassion at PP, but knew whoever we faced the week after we'd bounce back. That feeling knowing of whichever player walked into this club, we would turn them into, at worst, a very serviceable player. WE HAVE LOST THIS SINCE THE EARLY TO MID 90's. We have failed to transition this club from that successful era to a modern day AFL Club. A bit like Nokia - the dominant player in the mobile phone market for such a long time, held onto this thinking, and failed to evolve, and now just NOKIA who (oh, that company, what happened to them?)

I want that feeling of walking to the MCG/Etihad knowing that we are going to win, that no matter who we recruit, we turn them into serviceable/good/great/champion players, and our membership is thriving and growing with the banished members returning and hearing that massive roar when we win a game or hit the front in a game against one of our arch rivals.

All the above is not easy to acheive. In fact, its difficult, but not impossible. We just need to be smart and have the right people on board to make the right decisions to make the above happen, which comes back to my earlier point, this is the most important phase of our club, and we cannot afford to mess it up.

Mark and the board will have their work cut out - make no mistake, and I hope they lead and return the club to a true AFL Powerhouse, one that resembles and is better than what Geelong, Hawthorn, or even Sydney have built.

MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!


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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 7:59 am 
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Synbad wrote:
wont happen... too much ground to make up

we are a middle of the road club with a culture similar to richmond and melbourne

anymore of that and we will slip further

the goal right now is to not fall away anymore

but we will never, ever catch up to collingwood and hawthorn etc

What a negative view. May as well throw away the keys now......


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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 8:45 am 
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moshe25 wrote:
A better player than Walls???????????

Garthp x 1,000,000,000,000,000.

How old are you Cimm?


48 Mosh.

Just an opinion, you don't have to lose your shit every time someone has one.

My elder brothers and Dad had Walls as their favourite player for a long long time (plus we knew him) and like I said it took a long time for us to warm to Kernahan. I pretty sure they have Sticks ahead.

Different era and all that AFL v VFL yada yada.

Maclure was a good forward, who we had a lot of affection for but he wasn't in the same class as Walls or Sticks.

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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 8:50 am 
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Way off topic but I have Swan McKay on a par with Sticks.


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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 8:53 am 
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DocSherrin wrote:
Way off topic but I have Swan McKay on a par with Sticks.


Doesn't get the love he deserves.

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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 8:58 am 
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cimm1979 wrote:
DocSherrin wrote:
Way off topic but I have Swan McKay on a par with Sticks.


Doesn't get the love he deserves.


Never understood that.

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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 9:02 am 
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GWS wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
DocSherrin wrote:
Way off topic but I have Swan McKay on a par with Sticks.


Doesn't get the love he deserves.


Never understood that.


Because he played in the backline with Southby and Doull?

Dunno.

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Swan was awesome but he was a tad inconsistent, that's probably why. But never let us down in a big game.

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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 9:20 am 
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padre wrote:
Synbad wrote:
wont happen... too much ground to make up

we are a middle of the road club with a culture similar to richmond and melbourne

anymore of that and we will slip further

the goal right now is to not fall away anymore

but we will never, ever catch up to collingwood and hawthorn etc

What a negative view. May as well throw away the keys now......

its not negative... its the reality

melbourne and richmond havent thrown away the keys...

but theyre still melbourne and richmond...

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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 12:51 pm 
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DocSherrin wrote:
Why are you yelling at me?


I'M A PROBLEM SOLVER.

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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 1:00 pm 
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I'm loving all this DocSherrin positivity!

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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 1:37 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
wont happen... too much ground to make up

we are a middle of the road club with a culture similar to richmond and melbourne

anymore of that and we will slip further

the goal right now is to not fall away anymore

but we will never, ever catch up to collingwood and hawthorn etc



That's just silly and shortsighted saying we'll never catch up. Brands turn around their fortunes all the time - organisations become success stories all the time - even footy clubs do.

Do you think the parlous situation that Hawthorn for example found themselves in a few years back could only be remedied once? At no other time in the next 10 years could a club again instil strategic business and marketing plans to revive their fortunes?

Are you saying that the opportunity for changing business models is forever gone?

That there's a freeze on employing business leaders who can implement change?

Yeah nah, this club and a number of others with strong supporter bases could become bigger than they are currently. Yes, even as big as big old Hawthorn.

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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 1:49 pm 
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Almost as silly as saying McKay is as good as sticks
McKay maclure and to a greater extent walls were all fine players but not as good as Sticks
Agree he wasn't a great president but people are seriously underestimating his football and leadership capabilities
I saw them all play but Sticks was the best of a group of finre carlton forwards


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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 1:53 pm 
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It's crazy to use the word never in that context. 2 years ago people wanted to wind up Port so Tasmania could have a team. How long ago were Hawthorn members voting on a merger?

Get the right people in place who are there for the right reasons and a lot can change quickly.


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moshe25 wrote:
Swan was awesome but he was a tad inconsistent, that's probably why. But never let us down in a big game.


Beg to differ
final v North 1976 at VFL park.

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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 2:48 pm 
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DocSherrin wrote:
Way off topic but I have Swan McKay on a par with Sticks.


So do I.

I was having this discussion at dinner on Wednesday night.
I cant believe how Swan is overlooked in discussion...yet we all remember//

"McKay, on the memberstand wing...AWWWWWWWWWW Jesaulenko, you beauty"

Whenever we were in trouble we would swing Swan McKay from CHB to CHF and he's swing the game our way with 65 yard torpedo goals and marks galore.

LOVE THE SWAN

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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 2:57 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
wont happen... too much ground to make up

we are a middle of the road club with a culture similar to richmond and melbourne

anymore of that and we will slip further

the goal right now is to not fall away anymore

but we will never, ever catch up to collingwood and hawthorn etc



The goal is not to fall away????

I'm sure your fury with the state of Carlton is because we need to turn this around and not end up like a StK , Richmond and Melb.

Now youre saying we are like them, or we are them, and there's no hope for improvement.

Then why dont yoou give up the unwinnable fight and just enjoy watching our boys play win or lose like the Saints Tiges and Dees supporters have done for the past 30-60 years.

Nah, we are not there and we will rise from this avearge state of affairs.
I think we've learned about counting our chickens with "Can you smell.." campaign and overrating the list last year.

I believe we have a core group for the next 5 years and any team can turn things around in a few years if the recruiting/ trading and development are top notch. I think everyone ...current past and future... administrations are well aware of that.

Our 150th Anniversary is looking embarassing and doesnt look like we'll get to 50000, and this will be the catalyst for change....for the better.

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choo wrote:
moshe25 wrote:
Swan was awesome but he was a tad inconsistent, that's probably why. But never let us down in a big game.


Beg to differ
final v North 1976 at VFL park.


Yep - he did have a shocker that day. They just put him off his run at the ball all day. Once he missed his stride - he was gone. But he did play some huge games for us on the big stage.


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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 4:11 pm 
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Hey, how about that Mark LoGiudice eh ?

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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 4:20 pm 
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murraycray wrote:
Hey, how about that Mark LoGiudice eh ?


Shit forward.

I'd have Rod Galt ahead of him.

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