Talking Carlton Index Lochie O'Brien Kerryn Harrington Lochie O'Brien Kerryn Harrington CFC Home CFC Membership CFC Shop CFC Fixture Blueseum
It is currently Tue Jul 08, 2025 7:55 pm

All times are UTC + 10 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 19 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: 6 to step up.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:33 pm 
Offline
Ken Hunter
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:12 am
Posts: 10414
Location: Coburg
so my thinking is simple (yes, yes, I know isn't it always....)

6 new blokes to step up.

2 from the draft (I'm thinking 2 from 4) to play say 14 games each.

then saddo

plus the preseason draft bloke - yes even Maclaren would play a lot games in this side

then 2 from Russell, Hartlett, Raso, Setanta, Blackwell.

So if this could happen
we'd have say

Saddo T-Bird Carrots
Russell Hartlett Lappo
Walker Bentick Simmo
Waite Lance Fisher
Betts Fev Murphy

French Kouta Stevo

Setanta, McLaren, Blackers, New guy (midfielder).

this is an example - I am not saying Hartlett will hold down CHB, I am not saying Setanta is a certainty etc. I am using their names to highlight that we must try and lift that bottom six dramatically this year or it will be another wind tunnel to dispair!

The point I'm trying to make is that if we can dramatically improve our bottom six with the draft/growth etc...

Then we may begin to show signs of real improvement.

go for say 4 next year,

that makes 10 changes in two years - the emphasis on at least 4 of these being A graders (potentially) and we are on the way back.

_________________
This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:48 pm 
Offline
Garry Crane

Joined: Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:27 am
Posts: 244
Location: Pasture
a bit ambitious i feel!
Unlikely to have Hartlett and Russell both playing regularly. I would be happy if 1 of these guys played a dozen good games. they are both young and need time. V. tough ask to go straight to CHB in your first senior year.

Not convinced on Bentick yet, despite others getting excited. Still seems a bit of a Jimmy Plunkett to me - 40ish games and 10 v.good games.

where was:
Scotland - his last half of season justifies his place in our best team.
mcGrath - Honest but not spectacular, rarely beaten. V.handy player Teague - still worth a spot, would make aterrific back pocket on their 3rd best forward. we need his hardness amd endevour.
Wiggo to be the big improver - controversial i know but a gut feeling


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:51 pm 
Offline
Harry Vallence
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:17 pm
Posts: 1639
Location: Within the old Carlton recruting zone ...
How about 38 to step up!!!

as a group the players need to rediscover the edge they had in the Wizard Cup. I know it's only a pre-season comp but a lot more players than usual were performing closer to their best capabilities. Rather than waiting for Kouta to do it all, Fev to kick all the goals or even the youngest members to suddenly get 100% better - I think it has to be a gradual improvement across the board.

Here's hoping ...

_________________
In WADA we trust


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:55 pm 
Online
Stephen Kernahan

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:35 am
Posts: 18065
New guy????

If you dont call him Murphy and name him in the 18, I'm not taking you seriously.
Get back to me when you're fair dinkum.







:-D

_________________
Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 6 to step up.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:58 pm 
Offline
Harry Vallence

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:11 pm
Posts: 1959
Location: Elwood
dannyboy wrote:


The point I'm trying to make is that if we can dramatically improve our bottom six with the draft/growth etc...

Then we may begin to show signs of real improvement.

.



Correct.
And this is what i think should, will, i hope ...... Happens...

_________________
I know a little secret. And i'm not sharing.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:01 pm 
Offline
Garry Crane

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:27 pm
Posts: 227
I am not counting much on our second year players except for improvement.

providing they stay on the list we really do need bentick[consistency], livo, sporn, wiggo, simmo[consistency], walker[confidence & consistency], davies [consistency], deluca, bryan to step it up..


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:20 pm 
Offline
Wayne Johnston
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:17 am
Posts: 8128
Key Position Defenders: Saddington Thornton Livingstone

Defensive Sweepers: Teague Whitnall

Running Backs: Carrazzo Sellwood

Wings: Stevens Murphy

Roaming Forwards: Fisher Waite Kouta

Small Forward: Betts

Full Forward: Fevola

Ruck: French

Starting Midfield: Bentick Scotland Simpson

Interchange: Bryan O’hAilpin Hartlett Walker

Midfield Rotation: Bentick Scotland Simpson Stevens Kouta
Carrazzo Betts Walker Murphy

_________________
There's so much I could say...


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:59 pm 
Offline
Bruce Doull
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:01 pm
Posts: 34556
Location: The Brown Wedge
Headcutter wrote:
Not convinced on Bentick yet, despite others getting excited. Still seems a bit of a Jimmy Plunkett to me - 40ish games and 10 v.good games.


How about.....14 games 10 great ones :wink: Agree, still has a long way to go but is looking like a footballer, something we have lacked seriously for 4 years.

Agree with DB, players won't play those positions every week/all game, but it does show at least a little depth for the 18 spots on the ground.

Saddington is just another small piece of relief for a Lance of Lappin. We're going down the right path, improving from the bottom while retaining the better players.

2 - 3 years before we see serious sept action.

_________________
end of message


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:18 pm 
Offline
Mike Fitzpatrick

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:10 am
Posts: 4827
budzy wrote:
Key Position Defenders: Saddington Thornton Livingstone

Defensive Sweepers: Teague Whitnall

Running Backs: Carrazzo Sellwood

Wings: Stevens Murphy

Roaming Forwards: Fisher Waite Kouta

Small Forward: Betts

Full Forward: Fevola

Ruck: French

Starting Midfield: Bentick Scotland Simpson

Interchange: Bryan O’hAilpin Hartlett Walker

Midfield Rotation: Bentick Scotland Simpson Stevens Kouta
Carrazzo Betts Walker Murphy


So we have re-signed Lance to be defensive sweeper?....expensive defensive sweeper and he will want to get a bit fitter..going to be a lot of sweeping to do...

_________________
"When you have the attitude of a champion, you see adversity as your
training partner."
- Conor Gillen


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:36 pm 
Offline
Wayne Johnston
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:34 am
Posts: 8888
Location: 8888
Well my 1000th post won't be to memorable, like any of them are. Well here goes:

Whitnall can't be played in defence in 2006, we traded for Saddington for that reason. He is a vital cog in my finals aspiring team in 2006, and that cog is inside the F50 kicking goals, giving directions, taking marks and takign the oppositions 2nd best defender.

PS: EB now its getting scary :lol:

_________________
Mjonc signing off at 8888


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:44 pm 
Offline
John Nicholls

Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2005 3:10 pm
Posts: 9404
Location: Back 50 of the Tiger Den
Quote:
Saddo T-Bird Carrots
Russell Hartlett Lappo
Walker Bentick Simmo
Waite Lance Fisher
Betts Fev Murphy


Gee that is a very young side.

_________________
Writer for SuperCoach Paige www.scpaige.com.au
Twitter - @johnfeeney24


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:48 pm 
Offline
Ken Hunter
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:32 am
Posts: 10625
mjonc wrote:
Well my 1000th post won't be to memorable, like any of them are. Well here goes:

Whitnall can't be played in defence in 2006, we traded for Saddington for that reason. He is a vital cog in my finals aspiring team in 2006, and that cog is inside the F50 kicking goals, giving directions, taking marks and takign the oppositions 2nd best defender.

PS: EB now its getting scary :lol:


Well said MJonc.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:51 pm 
Offline
Alex Jesaulenko
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 27, 2005 6:31 pm
Posts: 24457
Location: Heartbroken
phoenix johnson wrote:
Quote:
Saddo T-Bird Carrots
Russell Hartlett Lappo
Walker Bentick Simmo
Waite Lance Fisher
Betts Fev Murphy


Gee that is a very young side.


We're a very young list.

_________________
Richard Pratt - A Carlton legend.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:54 pm 
Offline
Ken Hunter
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:12 am
Posts: 10414
Location: Coburg
yes also I was trying to focus on the kids, showing where we are heading not saying we are there yet.

_________________
This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:39 pm 
Offline
Alex Jesaulenko

Joined: Sat May 14, 2005 2:15 pm
Posts: 21621
Location: North of the border
dannyboy wrote:
yes also I was trying to focus on the kids, showing where we are heading not saying we are there yet.


Danny with the 5 players that have already gone and the likely hood that Campo and Lappin also gone . We may get our wish and see these kids play as DP will have no choice other than pick them

_________________
If you allow the Government to change the Laws in an emergency
They will create an Emergency to change the Laws


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:49 pm 
Offline
Ken Hunter
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:12 am
Posts: 10414
Location: Coburg
very true. but shit it may just make things a lot more exciting!

_________________
This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:55 pm 
Offline
John Nicholls

Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2005 3:10 pm
Posts: 9404
Location: Back 50 of the Tiger Den
I'd be very excited if at least 3 quarters of last years draftees were given sufficient game time next year as well as Murphy and one or two others from this draft.

That's all we want...hope for the future.

_________________
Writer for SuperCoach Paige www.scpaige.com.au
Twitter - @johnfeeney24


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:23 pm 
Offline
Mike Fitzpatrick

Joined: Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:33 pm
Posts: 4079
Location: The corner of BumF*** and YouGotAPrettyMouth
setanta, russell, hartlett, blackwell, murphy, Pick 4, pick 20.....
add them to the likes of simpson, bentick, fisher, waite and carrazzo.....things are looking good after all

_________________
R A D I C A L B R O T H E R S

Inspired by the One-Minute Sculptures of Erwin Wurm

"All in all is all we are..."


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:04 pm 
Offline
Trevor Keogh
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:07 pm
Posts: 760
Location: Noble Park, Vic
The Shag wrote:
setanta, russell, hartlett, blackwell, murphy, Pick 4, pick 20.....
add them to the likes of simpson, bentick, fisher, waite and carrazzo.....things are looking good after all


I'l be happy with ......things are looking better after all !!!

I'm sure we'll get a little more productive output from our freshly wed Spearhead as well.....it has to get better....surely!!


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 19 posts ] 

All times are UTC + 10 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: CarltonComeback, Mickstar and 20 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group