There's nothing to do but cross your fingers and hope that our #1 selection is a messiah and not just a naughty boy. Thus a 2 part article:

http://carltonfc.com.au/default.asp?pg= ... eid=234726

We follow it up, with the help of the geek, by rating these guys from 1 to 12. Have a go at it? How would you rate them? By goals kicked, stats earned, good looks? The only clear thing about rating these is that Waterhouse comes last!

Oldest trick in the book! Write half a story and then leave everyone hanging - sad what some people will do to get an audience.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

It's even sadder that some people don't have an audience to begin with...

hehe - I've got a new database now thanks to that article.


Now I can ask questions like: Which player has the most Brownlow votes who started out on a Rookie list?

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What would PJ say about that?



Stephen Milne?

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My guess would be Brett Kirk

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some of us are secure enough to not need an audience

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

This article is clearly bias and is not a true representation of the talent that Clive produced while playing for Fremantle.

Shame on the authors.

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Fair enough. That's what PJ would say about that. Just because he's wrong and all...

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Kirk, Chad Fletcher second

Very close!

These are the top 11 'Rookies' with respect to Brownlow votes

Chad Fletcher 35
Brett Kirk 33
Greg Tivendale 24
Mark Johnson 22
Tadhg Kennelly 20
Peter Walsh 18
Damien Peverill 16
Nathan Bassett 15
Dean Rioli 14
Dean Cox 13
David Teague 11

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Jarusa, you severely misrepresented Clive Waterhouse in your stat findings.

Why did you do this?

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He left my cake out in the rain.

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Whilst we seem to have the days of Lounder and Hooper behind us the list of players whilst impressive has a couple of slight disappointments
Fraser
Headland has been inconsistent since going to dockers so much so that he was dropped when he should be in the prime of his career

Johnson has taken a long time to live up to the hype although he was excellent this year.
Water house was explosive but even before he did the knee was too inconsistent.
The best one will be Cooney

Lets go with a midfielder

Clive would never do that, Jarusa.

He'd bake a cake, invite you over, let you have a slice or two and then leave you out in the rain.

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far too gratuitous use of these: ' ' in that article.

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This might sound extreme in the context of alleged sexual assault, drunken violence and a drug trafficking charge...

Thanks for the 'constructive criticism'


PJ, don't worry about Waterhouse, according to the stats we use in the second part of the article he's not the worst #1. He only appears to be #1 on least games played, lowest skills, lowest usefulness. some question whether he's even the #1 Blondest hair, but it's a tight race with Riewoldt.

'just' 'trying' 'to' 'help'.

the rest was good. Actually I reckon the site is getting better since all contributors have been allowed to spark it up a bit. 'Well done'.

'yours superfluously'

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This might sound extreme in the context of alleged sexual assault, drunken violence and a drug trafficking charge...

That makes me feel stupid for saying Milne...

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Dont put yourself down halford, you were probably thinking about 'Most Newspaper Hits for a Rookie'