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 Post subject: Re: Greg Swann
PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:32 pm 
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The really weird thing in all of this is the disconnect between the administration who seem to think the 150th is the centre of the world and the supporters.

No-one I've spoken to really gives a @#$%&! about the 150th - they just want their team to play good hard football and their club to be functional.

Functional over functions!

Viva la revolucion!



Only seen this now - this is a very valid point - very succinct.

There seems to be a "bubble" at PP dominated by the importance of the anniversary. One thing that all the recent interviews and communications show is that they have no decent PR people / spin doctors (in lieu of personal ability) . The inability to formulate a decent message fitting to the current situation has probably amplified the constant clinging to the 150 year straw.


A birthday is important and we all like to celebrate them, but I'd much rather a premiership present with navy blue and white ribbons thanks.

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 Post subject: Re: Greg Swann
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Genuine question.

Is Swann that bad and what power does he hold over football department.

Would he be in a better position with a stronger board with better direction and a better person running the football department?

Who influences the culture the most?

Personally, Swann doesn't concern me as much as other things but it's also an area I haven't looked to deeply into?



My view (expressed previously).

- I think Swann delivered some genuine positives the first few years, from the outside looking in he was a professional football executive and straightened the place up somewhat (albeit with the club coming off an incredibly low base). He's by no means been 'bad' in my view. If anything the word I would use over the last few years is 'stale'.

- The role as it currently stands isn't set up right for a modern, successful football club. The CEO shouldn't be operationally involved in football matters.

- The CEO should be spending their time developing the best possible business model for the club, and leaving the football department to manage lists, recruiting and winning games on the weekend. Swann seems to be far to involved in the football side of it and not involved enough on the business side. I mean - what the hell is he doing on the list management committee. especially when we've got such a diabolical membership situation.

- so yes : I think it is vitally important that the CEO role is vacated as soon as the board shakeup is complete. I want to see a CEO put in place who is focused solely on delivering improvements in the key off field platforms of the club: revenue streams, fan engagement, external stakeholder engagement and people development within the club.

- I want the CEO to appoint a director of football (bye bye McKay...hello SOS?), who would in turn appoint a dedicated list manager. I have no problem with Malthouse staying on as coach is he's got the motivation. But all those guys would report to a director of football - and the CEO simply manages that person and the budget for the footy dept (which is going to be locked in place anyway as an equalisation measure.

the CEO role at Carlton is yet another example of an antiquated approach by Carlton. Someone mentioned in another thread - it seems the entire club has been sitting around for a decent period of time waiting for the 150 celebration to be over with so desperately needed changes at the club can take place. I don't know whether it's selfish or whether there's a genuine belief that stability in a time like this is required, but the end result has been stagnation, complacency etc.


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 Post subject: Re: Greg Swann
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Well said :clap:

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 Post subject: Re: Greg Swann
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The stability we have at the moment is a bit like a walking frame. Sure, it'll take a massive shunt to make us fall over, but there's no way in hell we're going to start running anytime soon.

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 Post subject: Re: Greg Swann
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Swann off to Lions?

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The most important part of the AFL’s action to regain the afl-ising done in the early 2000s will be a rearrangement of staff. If the AFL is going to plonk millions with Brisbane it will want its own men there to supervise. And Carlton chief executive Greg Swann appears that man in waiting.

Swann might be gone from the Blues within a week. His position at Carlton now the board has been rejigged is all but untenable. He is happy to leave and the club would not stand in his way. Having turned around Collingwood and then Carlton, Swann’s record at righting wonky businesses is proven and valued. He has the respect of the AFL heavies.

He would replace Malcolm Holmes who is in his fourth year at the Lions. The job has not come easy to the New Zealander who was previously CEO of NZ Thoroughbred Racing. The AFL will also look at former Fitzroy player Michael Conlan, who is CEO of AFL Queensland, as a possible replacement for Holmes.

The re-afl-ising of Queensland has begun.

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 Post subject: Re: Greg Swann
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This is part of Swann's legacy. We are closer to Melbourne than Collingwood

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 Post subject: Re: Greg Swann
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swan should be packing up his office right now....


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 Post subject: Re: Greg Swann
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What are West Coast selling?

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 Post subject: Re: Greg Swann
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What are West Coast selling?


Westcoast supporters are filty rich bogans.
Im sure the club exploits that by way of membership prices or "special" memberships.


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 Post subject: Re: Greg Swann
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What are West Coast selling?


Westcoast supporters are filty rich bogans.
Im sure the club exploits that by way of membership prices or "special" memberships.


Not sure how many games you get to, but the typical WCE member is 40+, goes with their spouse, takes a thermos, takes sandwiches and cake in a tupperware container AND (my pet hate) uses those little seat cushions.

Yes, there are filthy rich bogans at the ground but most are just very boring white, liberal party voters.

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 Post subject: Re: Greg Swann
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It says in the article that due to restricted capacity and high membership numbers the Eagles get far less $ from walk up ticket sales than we would. Same for the dockers and cats. Really we should be making our comparisons with the Pies, Hawks, Tigers and Bombers*. We're miles off the pies. Realistically I'd like to see us reel in the other 3 who are marginally ahead of us. If in 2-3 years we find ourselves in 3rd position in terms of membership revenue, behind only the pies and cats, I think we'll be doing something right and have a solid platform to build from.

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 Post subject: Re: Greg Swann
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So, if we are fourth in access membership numbers and 9th in revenue, does that mean we are selling our memberships cheaper than the other major clubs?


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 Post subject: Re: Greg Swann
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So, if we are fourth in access membership numbers and 9th in revenue, does that mean we are selling our memberships cheaper than the other major clubs?


Our caps must be more expensive.

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 Post subject: Re: Greg Swann
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does it mean the pratts 3 game memberships drag it down?

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 Post subject: Re: Greg Swann
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does it mean the pratts 3 game memberships drag it down?


I was given one if them last year, for free

The Think Tank need to focus in that campaign and improve it, maybe make it a 4 game membership.

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 Post subject: Re: Greg Swann
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the repeated think tank 'joke' is incredibly tiring and beyond its used by date

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 Post subject: Re: Greg Swann
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does it mean the pratts 3 game memberships drag it down?


I was given one if them last year, for free

The Think Tank need to focus in that campaign and improve it, maybe make it a 4 game membership.

:stanmagro:

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 Post subject: Re: Greg Swann
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the repeated think tank 'joke' is incredibly tiring and beyond its used by date


Add repeated comments about Sausage Sizzles and Book Tours and you've got your trifecta of unfunny jokes past their use by dates.

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 Post subject: Re: Greg Swann
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The players can start tackling and doing the basics tight?

Like they did against the bulldogs with 88 tackles and 150 contested ball stats. Our highest for the year.

They had 49 tackles and 117 contested balls against the pies, our lowest for the year.

In both of those games the possession numbers were roughly the same for each club.

No excuse for poor workrate, contested ball and 1%ers...

Get those basics right and the team has a far better chance of winning. Even if they lose, whilst dissapointing, fans can live with the loss.

It's really quite pathetic to watch this carlton team under performing in these basic areas. And all too often ladies and gentlemen.

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 Post subject: Re: Greg Swann
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yes greg swann , fix that please......

you are so lost inside your own bubble of bullshit you have no idea where you are posting the same four things over and over again anymore

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