There are no guarantees with our recruiting and his best is yet to come...what to do what to do?!!

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It would be money well spent if this went to getting a goal kicking coach which would benefit the whole team, rather than topping up an individual salary.

Scenario 1 - Keep Brock McLean on a salary of $200-300k, trade Bryce Gibbs, get pick 6/7 in the draft and rely on Carlton's record on recruiting high in the draft -eg Matthew Watson etc.


Scenario 2 - don't renew McLean's contract, Gibbs gets a contract of $550-570 - which is more than what he deserves on the market, Carlton gets pick 6 in the draft.


Scenario 3 - release McLean, release Gibbs and get pick 6 and 7 in draft.

On these three scenarios I would go for scenario 2. Gibbs can be effective in big games. There was a match against North a few years ago that I remember clearly where he kicked vital goals that secured the victory. Any victory over North I savour and remember. Sure he is not an A grade player, but he is better than all than about 5-8 players on the list. Keep him unless there is a guaranteed benefit not to keep him. I can't see that guarantee unfortunately. If Carlton had the money of Collingwood and could spend squillions on recruiting personnel and get nearly every decision right you would reconsider...but I have little faith in Carlton's recruiting team even though there has been a changeover.

That's the exact reason we are in this mess. Always taking the safe option and not aggressive or progressive enough in our List Management and Recruiting. It's the reason we got Thomas. Still thinking we can buy Premierships.

Bryce is as good as he will ever be. He won't get any better. Is he going to be part of the next great Carlton side?? No. It's time to build for the future

If we allow him to go we will have TWO picks inside Top 10 and extra money in the Salary Cap for another player. It should be a no brainer and for most clubs it would be.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

That's more of a reflection of our list. Gibbs is the type of player that would be a great addition to an already good side. Where we sit now he is a commodity and we need to let him go. Hanging on to him will achieve nothing positive.

It should be a simple decision.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

..not sure hawks would be interested, does not have the 'stuff' that makes hawks player such good footy players.. ..and I doubt they would pay what it takes to get him, no way hawks would pay him anything over 350/400..

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Maybe, maybe not. I am sure there is a club out there that would jump at getting Gibbs and given where we currently sit we should let it happen. Surely, if we take away the emotion of it, it's a simple decision?

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

..if we finish low and are looking at band 1 compo, sure I agree.. ..just doubtful it would be hawks..

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Who mentioned Hawthorn? Personally I think it will be Adelaide.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Hard to argue against this

There is an opportunity here isn't there , if we finish low

Look at the impact of Wines n Wingard

..some folks on here think dawks.. ..possibly crows if he wants to return home, port have shown they are like other smart teams and are avoiding high priced players.. ..basically will bë a dumb old fashioned team that chases high price tag..

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I said like judd, not judd now!. Maybe read before commenting

Judd is not a natural leader - a reluctant leader.

He hasnt mentored any of our younger players very well IMO. especially after the first 2 years at Carlton

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I dont understand why anyone talks about trading Gibbs. He will be a RESTRICTED FREE AGENT so clubs don't need to trade, they can pick him up gratis via free agency.

What will occur if this happens is that we will be given a compensatory draft pick, more than likely after our 1st round pick so should we finish 13th as an example, we would get a compensation pick directly after our 1st round pick - therefore, picks 4 and 5 (where pick 4 is the 1st round pick and pick 5 is the compensation pick)

Therefore what needs to be discussed and debated is whether losing Gibbs as a restricted free agent is palatable considering we will receive a compensation pick inside the first round.

And let's face it, the way this season is panning out, it will most likely be an additional pick inside the top 5!!!

Capish!!!

i think what i emant about trading gibbs is letting him go for the pick
in effect youre still trading for a first rounder.

not to any club in particular


basically if he goes anywhere else he will fulfill his potential in my opinion
if he stays he wont

what will draft with his pick is a non versatile hbfer type.. a big slow mid.. or a slow tall

thats what our recruiters have downpat... theyre not going to get us a dynamic type .. hard to see dynamic in among all those plodders running around the TAC

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Are we the worst in the comp re: development and getting the maximum out of players?

What if he went to the tigers? Or the lions? Doggies?

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We must recruit players with some type of speed,doesnt matter if you are 185 or 196cm must have some pace.We must get this draft right.As for gibbsy all depends where we finish at the end of season.

Stated today he will sign.

Also said he is happy in melb.

Not going anywhere as suspected.

Bummer.

We are Carlton. We are condemned to mediocrity.

He has to say that, until he doesnt sign.

Carlton should stop negotaiating and wait till the end of the year.
Offer him 400-450k max.

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