Top 1 for bravery.

Amazing how they battle on so valiantly on Anzac day after the flu decimated their team 2 weeks earlier

mm cant make the cattle drink water

ratten is what put things in their true context

he isnt gone for too long.

they have habits.. these habits must be broken.

i reckon the players will respond to mm and become men.

if they do mm has done his homework... sometimes its not obvious immediately.

for me i wanna see us bring that kind of WORK ETHIC and RESPONSIBILITY to the game against collingwood.... hopefully that kind of pressure will make them buckle at the knees.

Then if wwe can achieve a win.. thats 3 in a row and were then turning to the Saints again on a Monday night football game to make our season equal.
Alot of ifs in all that... but the effort the players must find is unquestionably the key.
Malthouse cant bring them for them.....

Its something that has escaped us for years.

The closest has been the 2011 season..which just happened to be our best.
Bck then we were up there for all the key indicators.
It should have sunk in then.... instead... Carrazzo goes down early 2012 and the team couldnt play..... Carrazzo was down...
heads sank... effort went out the door and the fleeting glimpse into what can be disappered.
Lets see what we do this time.
Starting from the Magpies.
Bring that effort and i reckon youll see them buckle.
Dont bring that effort and some belief and were back to the on off .

Thats player driven

These guys needs to grow up

Cretylus stop egging him on with his ridiculous attempts to hide player responsibility and sweep it under the carpet.

its funny... but uncalled for...

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Agreed, we probably would expect to be 4 and 2.
That's not really a particularly unattainable pass mark.

But at least we have some momentum now - hopefully Mick can build on that

Typical Synbad.

Talks around, back track, spin and bulldust.

The team wins it's Mick.
The team loses it's the list, even when that loss is against MELBOURNE, MELBOURNE, MELBOURNE!!!!!!!!!!

4-2.

All you have to do Synbad is acknowledge what you said a week ago. 0-4 was unacceptable, it's still unacceptable.

If MM can recover from this he deserves credit, but so do the players.

So far his efforts in almost burying the season a month in are rightly criticised.

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it is unaccptable and as daisy said the focus is on pressure tackling etc

and hence the turn around....

cimm... i appreciate what youre trying to say but its a cop out!!!

dont turn it on me.

the players knew it was them...and they were playing meek footy.

i dont blame a coach right now for a team that doesnt know how to be accountable or real men

but ill blame him if we finish this season as cowards

its hard to undo the seeds of the conditioning youve had in your head for years
the laziness
the unaccountability

even though daisy was a flashy unaccountable type when he was taken.. youd say hes the opposite for us now.

thats mm!!!

thats what needs to happen to all of our players.

murph ran forward really hard with the ball in the last

needs to learn to do the same thing defensively without the ball too

thats footy

and thats what mm would expect .. i know i expect exactly that

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Victoria Crosses surely in consideration.

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Thomas has been one of the hardest working players since he was drafted.

Look at the 2007 semi v's WCE. Last guy still running.

He was one of my favourite non-carlton players.

What I want to know is, why did we take a guy like him if we are rebuilding?

Makes no sense.

If Ratt's had brought him to the club you'd be pointing out his dodgy disposal, impending career ending recurrence of his foot injury, how he's body shape is all wrong for modern footy, how he's past it, and how the $950k (yes I know he's not on that but that's never stopped your nonsense) cost us Eddie Betts and will cost us getting .........(insert champ free agent or young gun here).....................

You'd say it was a desperate attempt by Ratt's to keep his job and he's set the club back a decade in the process.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

100 point loss isn't acceptable to anyone. Melbourne loss was a disgrace. Worst side I have ever seen.

Fact is we are mental front runners. People who think we should or could are kidding themselves. Last two weeks have been good but reality is we aren't a very good side.

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Gameplans dont sprout work ethic.... but every gameplan must have it Cimm.

As for Thomas.. you saw his underage stuff did you?

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No.

And I didn't see his birth video either.

But as far as I know not too many kids taken as high as him spent their lives as accountable types, particularly 10 years ago.

It's no secret Thomas is hard working. 2007 Final against WCE. Take a look, he was the difference. He was the hardest working player on the field in his second year, in a game that went into OVERTIME Worked way harder than Buckley ever did in his entire career, that's why I've always rated him higher than Buckley.

If you want to give all that credit to MM good for you, but he had some softies running around as well.

MM may well have influenced his career, but there was pretty good clay to work with.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

I reckon Thomas would be great for a bunch of young kids if we do go down that path. Maybe more so than Judd was.

right....

except for dumb ratten right Mr S?

Pagan, MM cant make the cattle drink - but dumb Ratten MUST uphold full responsibility and abide by the highest standards and fullfill the ultimate in sporting excellence the Universe has seen since Abraham was a child.

Yes ladies and Gentlemen, MM can sizzle sausages and go on book tours, coach poorly on match day, but its all about the process. Nothing to do with the coach ladies and gentlemen.

All of a sudden its in the Players hands ladies and gentlemen. They are responsible for meeting the basic requirements of the game.

It always has been Mr S.

This is why Chris Scott can enter an organisation like Geelong, win the first 13 games, drop only 2 games for the year and pull off a great victory in the 2011 GF against the reigning premiers after giving them a 5 goal start and losing their full forward early. (although to b fair, the cats had an extra assistant coach that day in the name of MM, who kept Reid onto Hawkins for 9 hours too long and had Didak on Scarlett all day, who did nothin and allowed Scarlett to dictate terms from the back pocket)

Yes ladies and gentlemen it was ALL due to the magnificent Chris Scott that year. Meanwhile his twin brother who went to the Knagaroos couldnt get the basics right with the Roos, let alone win many games.

Parkin said that he didn't coach very much in 1995, and that his stint at Fitzroy was the best that he had coached.

Mr S, do you know why Parkin said that?

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A fair point above, but Judd has set a standard for a young group on work ethic - Thomas may do the same on being a competitive beast, but I think Judd has been great role model for us

Thomas hasn't pulled a team apart yet, but his work rate and hardness has impressed me - when he finally gets some good match fitness up he is going to be great for us.

One of the messages that got drummed into me a young player was that if you are down on form / confidence etc still be involved - every one still has a voice, can chase, can tackle, can spoil etc - this is how you will yourself into form, and that's how I see Thomas at the moment - doing all the small things to get his fitness and form up

agree with that...

(although my preferred choice would be a Selwood or Mcveigh type of leader. But when you have to work with fairy floss you dont have much choice)

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Unfortunately, Judd set other standards that were clearly sub-par in a professional contact sport.

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Think you are spot on with that Bomba.
Just think Thomas would "go into bat" more for his teammates than Judd.

....maybe daisy is batting for Mick? they are pretty close after all

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Cretylus Ratten had over 5 years to address situations.
Cimm.. yes u didnt see his birth video.. very lazy... he didnt even wanna poke his head out.
Was sorted out at Collingwood

Nobody has been sorted out at Carlton.
Everybody knows we wither when the pressure gets turned up.

unless im wrong and im missing something....

Youre going to tell me now that before Malthouse came we were a model of work ethic and mental toughness are you??

Yes or no?
Or wanna call a friend???

Im starting to hear some of the most ridiculous things ever!!!

We have had many years to address systematic downhill softness.
Carrazzo comes off...
*oh we cant play footy anymore
-Why not?
*Carrazzo isnt in

I wrote about this as being a fundamental flaw in going forwards.
Physucal and mental preparedness.

Now if you blokes wanna argue that its Malthouses fault.. show me and llustrate how it was different before he came..

otherwise youll be in for some serious bending over and touching your toes if you wanna be debating me on it.

I dont mind... im home alone for a week..!!!

Come on bitches Big Bubba is here...

keep arguing.. but stick to the facts and the context of truth

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yes yes.. words of great thought....

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Tough talking keyboard typing. Woot woot!!!

We win a game with the shit list yesterday and you want to attribute the win to Dale Thomas, I wonder why?

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I hope Essendon* folds.