I call bull dust .

You don't lose to Melb no matter how flaky.

Same list, same team he's had for 18 months and that 4 points was given away for eff all.

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no cimm, this IS MM's gamestyle.
he said so!

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sorry to break this to you ... but if you dont do the basics you wont beat melbourne either
thats just how life is.

you dont do your homework u wont pass.... u dont pass u have to find a job
u dont wake up in the morning to go for an interview ... u dont get a job.... u dont get a job u dont eat...u dont eat u dont shit... u dont shit u die!!!

the world can be so cruel.....

but ultimately its up to you... u might not get all the way to the top... but you shouldnt allow yourself to get to living on the street either

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Cimm is a bit like the media at the presser

Same team, same list.

But you are right about homework.

MM wasn't ready for the start of the season. Didn't do his homework, wasn't prepared for the start of the year.

Same as last year.

4-2 minimum.

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You will have noticed that I have been screaming about the basics of the game for some time now Mr S. Even MM said yesterday that our tackling has been very good the last couple of weeks (but he doesn't know where all this renewed effort and intensity comes from)

MM got the start of the game pretty right, then his performance in the box decayed away. One of the most disgraceful senior coaching efforts I have seen by a senior Carlton coach since Ian Stewart took the reigns in the mid 1970s.

Same list, with injuries and they managed to snare the 4 points in a fighting win.

When the tap outs are 55/27 against you, you rarely win the stoppages, clearances and therefore rarely win the game. But if you put pressure on and tackle, and do team things, you can neutralise this hit out ascendancy by the opposition.

Although I have to say that Wornock did get some quality taps late in the game when it counted that resulted in some goals and important plays for us.

Simpson will be not be blaming the poor kicking of his players or the hitting of the post late in the dying minutes.

I suspect Simpson will be telling his players, why couldn't you match the blues in the tackling pressure and 1%ers? Why didn't you take advantage of the ruck work dominance of Cox and Netanyui?

Simpson will be focusing on the basics during the week I would imagine.

Have the Carlton players worked it out yet?

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ah yes ... but the basics... u need to do the basics
the non negotiables.
win or lose.

thats the basics in everything ... life .. football.. family... friendships..

whatever

u have to do the basics

if u dont wanna do them .. ull always fail

the basics

then u build upon that to get really good

waiting for something to happen isnt the basics

u dont grasp that do u???

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I wonder if Worsfold will return to Carlton next year under a succession plan... ?

In the first month of footy were poor in the basics areas of the game. Maybe 3 quarters of football were good in these areas out of 16 quarters.

Were does the responsibility lay if the playing group are poor in the basic areas of the game. The 1%ers, work rate and contested ball.

Yesterdays win was a prime example of how you can snatch the 4 points or even stay in the game and give yourself a chance, by being as good as you can in the basics of the game.

I have generally laid the responsibility to these non negotiable important areas in a professional contact sport on the playing group as a whole. And a strong leadership group that values honesty and team ethics, would ensure that ALL players did not compromise these areas.

We have been mediocre to poor in the player leadership depth and quality for many years now so it doesn't surprise me the way we play generally and how the Hawks phage been laughing at as since Clarkson took over in 2007, the last season where we beat them.

This can turn around quite quickly, like it did for the cats in 2006. But it takes honesty by the players and everyone in the club.

Have the players worked it out yet?

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the basics wont get u to a premiership unless u also have the talent

but they will get u over the top of the teams that dont do the basics
we had another ripper tackle count and the eagles had just over half of ours.

they lost... but if they had tackled and worked harder.. the missed goals as cretylus points out wouldnt have made as much difference.

do the non negotiables.

theyre non negotiables because thats precisely what they are if u want to not be an embarrassment

check thomas out in the last five minutes.

its not always about the tactics

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Daisys effort in the last 5 minutes had nothing to do with the gameplan.
We could have played this gameplan and lost anyway..... even with the running gameplan......
Its about the EFFORT.The non negotiables...
People dont get it
People loved the Richmond game even after we were beaten by Swans with a lack of effort required.

That lack of effort also trickled into this season..... and the result was zero from 4.

EFFORT first!!.. then we can worry about the gameplan.

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Over the last decade the club from top to bottom has been timid, defensive, in their shells, no dare, no dash, no brashness...

I remember back in the Ratten era debating club29 and wanting the players to attack the opposition when we had the ball instead of the slow movement.

Attacking the opposition when we have possession places pressure on them... and often creates mistakes which gives us confidence.

No they won't. Maybe not even make the finals.

But the basics are one Of the 8 critical pillars for making a grand final and having a shot at a flag.

The senior coaching appointment is not one of those 8 critical pillars Mr S.

In fact you can get the senior coaching position wrong, but nail the 8'critical areas, and win a flag.

MM has made 4 decision errors IMO since arriving at Carlton. 3 of these errors involved the 8 critical pillars of club success. A club cannot afford an error in these critical areas. In fact, we need to strengthen these areas.

(Look at the cats in the 2009 GF against THE SAINTS. The saints started off very well, with Lenny Hayes racking up about 14 possessions in just over a quarter. Cats moved Bartel, a play maker onto Hayes to tag him. Bartel laid about 15 effective tackles for the match. The saints were sensational with 110 tackles for the match - unheard of tackling statistic. The problem was that the Cats had 116 tackles. Now, I don't think that this tackling statistic has ever been broken. The total of 226 tackles by both teams may never be broken. And the Cats had class in their team all over the ground, but do you know what they value the most ? Work rate, 1%ers and contested ball. That's were everything starts.)

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Essendon* are a top 4 team according to the media

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wont work against the good sides consistently BUT the teams around us we should have a better than even chance of beating as long as you do the basics.
Cimm doesnt think the basics are the basis for any club to go forward..
One thing we didnt learn from Ratten among the many things we didnt.. was taking responsibility and being accountable for effort

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Our skipper and the leadership group rarely valued responsibility and team sacrifice, honesty.

It was about Visy visits, Fev chasing or not etc....

In fact Fev was used a whipping boy when he showed half arsed attempts or complained about delivery etc.

The bulk of the team was doing that crap and even worse, including our captain. We loved pointing fingers at expendable players and scape goats like Fev, and making excuses for other protected players.

Our leadership group has learnt some things this season (I hope).

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More bulldust. Never said it.

You brought up homework and it's clear MM wasn't ready for the start of the year.

Everyone knows the basics are important.

Stop going back to Ratten Synbad. He's gone, we've got a new guy, pretty good apparently, cost a packet.

You said yourself the start of the year was unacceptable, but now it is because we've won 2 games?.

4-2 is the minimum we should accept from this coach.

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Some good strong, well crafted rebuttals Mr C

Keep up the good work in here.

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Suddenly our list is good enough to beat WC .... I laugh at some peoples logic in TC!
Malthouse and the players have both made appropriate changes, that is why we are starting to win again. Hopefully coach and players realise what is required now from each other. We have always had the talent or are talented enough to play finals and some might say even better than that.

Mr S, you have to admit that MM has been generally very ordinary since returning from his book launch in 2012. Even the inexperienced Hinkley with an inferior list has overtaken MM in the performance of his team.

I hope that MM turns it around and raises his coaching performance to an acceptable level.

Although the senior coaching role isn't one of the 8 critical club and player pillars of success, it is still important and can create drag for a club going forward.

And so far the drag coefficient created by the master Tsar Mihail Malthouse, is comparable to those old wooden submarines in the 18th century

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