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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 1:06 pm 
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Love the Fev ... if only he was sober a little more often he could still be here and contributing. How old is he?


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 1:11 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
Love the Fev ... if only he was sober a little more often he could still be here and contributing. How old is he?


15 mentally.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 1:13 pm 
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But he could kick the shit out of a pigskin, huh?


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 1:15 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
But he could kick the shit out of a pigskin, huh?


Sure could.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 1:17 pm 
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Was Fev an "A" grader?


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 1:22 pm 
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Clayman wrote:
In the Border Mail (Fairfax publication) Fev writes a weekly column. Today it is "What happened to Carlton?"

Fev has gone BANG!!! I can't find a link but here is a summary.


- Murphy needs more help from other players. He thinks Murph is a superstar. Judd coming back will help so he is not getting the number 1 tagger.
- Gibbs will go back to Adelaide. His best mate Sammy Jacobs is there, Betts is there and the home/family factor is the biggest thing. Fev can't see him staying at Carlton
- When he was sacked by the blues he was shattered because he thought he would miss out on premiership number 17
- Losing to Melbourne was embarrassing
- In a year the club is celebrating its 150 years, at 0 and 4 there is nothing to celebrate
- There is nothing for fans to cheer about as there are no rising stars coming through
- MM should have played JW and JG last week
- MM is frustrated and doesn't have the cattle
- Recruiters have a lot to answer for, haven't picked a forward since he left, they keep picking midfielders
- Forwards win finals, they are the difference in big games
- Should have kept Eddie, Dale Thomas gets his occasional big specky and 15 touches and won't win you a game off his own boot
- Judd/Kennedy trade - Judd is a superstar but so is Josh Kennedy. Blues might have a premiership now with JK in the side
- Club needs to question Brock, Scotland and Carrazzo staying on the list
- Board has more leaks than a sieve
- Sticks was only meant to be president for 6 months and still there now. Need to find the right person to replace him


lost me with Kennedy is a superstar and Carlton may have won a premiership with him

now that's funny


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 1:38 pm 
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http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/former ... 6889783899

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 1:46 pm 
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Rod Waddell wrote:
Was Fev an "A" grader?


A grade talent.

A grade fool.

I'd give him a B overall.

Should have been so much more.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:06 pm 
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Here is the article.

http://www.bordermail.com.au/story/2228482/fevs-view-what-happened-to-carlton/?cs=10

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:26 pm 
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People can say what they like about Fev but I will say one thing in his defense:

When we were at our LOWEST point in the clubs HISTORY Fev was about the ONLY thing to cheer for. He kept bums on seats at games, won us games off his own boot AND won a Coleman Medal when we finished LAST!
I remember those games against Essendon* and Collingwood (you know, those game we just HATE losing?) and won those block busters off his own boot! I remember the 10s of thousands of Carlton faithful going ape droppings at those games because of Fev, and those were our darkest years as a club.

I remember going to games thinking we are screwed, we're gonna get pumped. Oh hang on, Fev might have a day out and we win this. Fevola was about the only shining light we had at Carlton in our darkest years.

How quickly people forget what Fevola did for us where it matters most, on the field, winning us games. His private mishaps were a disappointment, its a shame Fevola wasn't born in an era early, his behavior wouldn't have even been noticed back in those days ...

I still remember Fevola with fondness. Kids loved him, he made the game exciting (which is a lot more than I can say for us today) and he was a character. Actually I have often pondered if Fevola's "character" had such an impact on the club that subconsciously we've gone after introverted type footballers ever since ...


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:37 pm 
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How quickly people forget what Fevola did for us where it matters most, on the field, winning us games. His private mishaps were a disappointment, its a shame Fevola wasn't born in an era early, his behavior wouldn't have even been noticed back in those days ...

I still remember Fevola with fondness. Kids loved him, he made the game exciting (which is a lot more than I can say for us today) and he was a character. Actually I have often pondered if Fevola's "character" had such an impact on the club that subconsciously we've gone after introverted type footballers ever since ...


What Fevola did or didn't do off field was never my number one problem with him.

Along with the freakish skill it's the petulance onfield that's his lasting legacy. Deciding whether to turn it on or sit in a pocket and sulk is Fevola's great legacy to our club. We now have a group of players who came through watching a player get by on talent alone and be allowed to do so.

Carlton's had far greater players than Fevola because they played for their team mates, their supporters, their jumper and their club and they did it week in week out. Give me Peter Dean or Bruce Doull over Fev any day. The club I remember wouldn't have put up with Fevola's week in week out bullshit.

The situation we now find ourselves in is due to player petulance and weak administration.

The St Kilda model.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:42 pm 
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idle wrote:
People can say what they like about Fev but I will say one thing in his defense:

When we were at our LOWEST point in the clubs HISTORY Fev was about the ONLY thing to cheer for. He kept bums on seats at games, won us games off his own boot AND won a Coleman Medal when we finished LAST!
I remember those games against Essendon** and Collingwood (you know, those game we just HATE losing?) and won those block busters off his own boot! I remember the 10s of thousands of Carlton faithful going ape droppings at those games because of Fev, and those were our darkest years as a club.

I remember going to games thinking we are screwed, we're gonna get pumped. Oh hang on, Fev might have a day out and we win this. Fevola was about the only shining light we had at Carlton in our darkest years.

How quickly people forget what Fevola did for us where it matters most, on the field, winning us games. His private mishaps were a disappointment, its a shame Fevola wasn't born in an era early, his behavior wouldn't have even been noticed back in those days ...

I still remember Fevola with fondness. Kids loved him, he made the game exciting (which is a lot more than I can say for us today) and he was a character. Actually I have often pondered if Fevola's "character" had such an impact on the club that subconsciously we've gone after introverted type footballers ever since ...


Ditto

Great footballer at a club at its lowest point off field and on field.
Bereft of personnel around the club able enough to keep him in line.
And I believe he could have been disciplined and he would've turned out better.
He is no angel. I'm not saying his is or was. Good hearted person is Fev

A Grade player.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:53 pm 
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I somewhat disagree. I think Fevola would have fitted in perfectly in the days of Southby, Doull and co. I know one thing for sure, anyone of those MEN would have set Fevola straight real quick. Would have done him the world of good too. But instead Fevola was surrounded by what? Remember those days? You blame Fevola for sitting in a pocket sulking when he had some of the worst team mates in the comp? Imagine for a moment having the skill of Fevola, a guy who could REALLY play, and your stuck in that team? Frustrating would be an understatement. Can you even begin to imagine what Fevola could have done in a Premiership team? If he had of played for a club sitting in the top four all year round? Getting delivery of the ball on a string each week? I cant count the amount of times Fevola made the impossible possible. I watched at the games week in week out Fevola leading for the ball and our inept team in those days would send the ball anywhere but to him. And yes, he'd get frustrated and sulk over it. In a sense I cant blame him, I was just as frustrated watching it, I can only imagine what he was going through.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:55 pm 
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Fev was a flower and still is.
He makes some valid points, but lets be honest, is it stuff we already don't know, mainly?

Moving along nothing to see.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:07 pm 
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idle wrote:
People can say what they like about Fev but I will say one thing in his defense:

When we were at our LOWEST point in the clubs HISTORY Fev was about the ONLY thing to cheer for. He kept bums on seats at games, won us games off his own boot AND won a Coleman Medal when we finished LAST!
I remember those games against Essendon** and Collingwood (you know, those game we just HATE losing?) and won those block busters off his own boot! I remember the 10s of thousands of Carlton faithful going ape droppings at those games because of Fev, and those were our darkest years as a club.

I remember going to games thinking we are screwed, we're gonna get pumped. Oh hang on, Fev might have a day out and we win this. Fevola was about the only shining light we had at Carlton in our darkest years.

How quickly people forget what Fevola did for us where it matters most, on the field, winning us games. His private mishaps were a disappointment, its a shame Fevola wasn't born in an era early, his behavior wouldn't have even been noticed back in those days ...

I still remember Fevola with fondness. Kids loved him, he made the game exciting (which is a lot more than I can say for us today) and he was a character. Actually I have often pondered if Fevola's "character" had such an impact on the club that subconsciously we've gone after introverted type footballers ever since ...

i have often wondered this myself

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:16 pm 
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Rod Waddell wrote:
Was Fev an "A" grader?



Rod, Fev was an A triple plus.

Agree with idle ... Fev was old school. He wasn't into microdermabrasions, pedicures, style cuts and other half-man antics our current list -- minus Zac Touhy -- indulge in.

Fev was so real you could touch him.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:07 pm 
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..fev was lazy and selfish and pissed over all he professed to love.. ..that time he crashed through setanta's back and had the gall to tell him off for it, spoke volumes.. ..the old Carlton, the one winning flags after smoko, would have knocked him into next week in the rooms at half time for what he did.. ..was never a team man, always the rotten apple in any team environment..

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:10 pm 
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Fev was and still is a tool,he could have been a great of the club :mad: ,GOOD RIDDANCE


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:22 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
But he could kick the shit out of a pigskin, huh?


I always reckon Fev would of been suited to the great Carlton sides of the eighties.

Great blokes who enjoyed a drink but could play. Plus FF were stars in those days.

Imagine Fev on the end of kicks from Marcou, Sheldon, Ashman, Harmes, Maylin, Buckley etc.

Right bloke completely wrong time. :wink:

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 6:03 pm 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
Braithy wrote:
But he could kick the shit out of a pigskin, huh?


I always reckon Fev would of been suited to the great Carlton sides of the eighties.

Great blokes who enjoyed a drink but could play. Plus FF were stars in those days.

Imagine Fev on the end of kicks from Marcou, Sheldon, Ashman, Harmes, Maylin, Buckley etc.

Right bloke completely wrong time. :wink:

You're idealising those times, Psych. Aside from Ashman and possibly Harmes, none of those guys was as good a pass as Houlihan, Stevens, or Murphy. Fev might've been good because he'd be disciplined not because he'd get silver service.

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