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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:05 pm 
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Ok i'm
Not fussed but I'll expect a full report on my desk in the morning on what they have been brainstorming .
As long as theyre really going some concentrated focus on improving the club and not just using this club for selfish reasons it's OK.
Interested to know what this youth group is made of. Haute to think they're full of it and unaccountable like the rest of their taskmasters. After all this is tomorrow leadership group.. Let's see some action.. And not just the kissing cousins type.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:07 pm 
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....Wow Wee, it didnt take very long did it Ladies and Gentlemen

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:41 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Just to set the record straight I am not anti fun.
But I do have a problem with a club that has no idea how to embrace it's community and falls for the only thing they know... Elite silver tails etc.
This is why we have forty five thousand members and a dying club.
Some people might see all this as harmless and others shouldn't get worked up by it.
I see this as more evidence if the oligarchical bubble losing contact with its grass roots.
We see all kinds of shitty initiatives at their level.. Nothing at grass roots. It's all excluded and the rabble.
This club is a ship of fools.

Synners the part about lost contact with the grass roots supporter I agree with totally. I actually think it is an indefensible argument. I don't mind the ivory towers as long as there is a balance with the grass roots.

Let's just say one man one vote. Not co-opted persons with big bank balances on the board.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:58 pm 
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Teddy Hopkins wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Just to set the record straight I am not anti fun.
But I do have a problem with a club that has no idea how to embrace it's community and falls for the only thing they know... Elite silver tails etc.
This is why we have forty five thousand members and a dying club.
Some people might see all this as harmless and others shouldn't get worked up by it.
I see this as more evidence if the oligarchical bubble losing contact with its grass roots.
We see all kinds of shitty initiatives at their level.. Nothing at grass roots. It's all excluded and the rabble.
This club is a ship of fools.

Synners the part about lost contact with the grass roots supporter I agree with totally. I actually think it is an indefensible argument. I don't mind the ivory towers as long as there is a balance with the grass roots.

Let's just say one man one vote. Not co-opted persons with big bank balances on the board.



ivory towers cannot be supported by grass roots-the ivory tower collapses


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:58 pm 
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Teddy Hopkins wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Just to set the record straight I am not anti fun.
But I do have a problem with a club that has no idea how to embrace it's community and falls for the only thing they know... Elite silver tails etc.
This is why we have forty five thousand members and a dying club.
Some people might see all this as harmless and others shouldn't get worked up by it.
I see this as more evidence if the oligarchical bubble losing contact with its grass roots.
We see all kinds of shitty initiatives at their level.. Nothing at grass roots. It's all excluded and the rabble.
This club is a ship of fools.

I don't mind the ivory towers as long as there is a balance with the grass roots.



...kind of a balance between tyranny and freedom, fascism and democracy???

what about racism and equality? Should be have balance there?

Some things should never be tolerated and always fought against...

resigning to accepting a balance is formal consent....and part of the problem.

Australia is currently being Monarchised with the presence and tour of the special people. the supreme human beings - the worlds number 1 welfare recipients. The hominids with the perfect genes.

And costing the Australian tax payer 35 million dollars - shhhhhhhhhhhhh dont say anything

I wonder if these supreme representatives of theif-dom and genocide will sit around a table and speak with the Indigenous people of this country???

No ladies and gentlemen WE MUST tolerate balance between Ivory Towers and Grass Roots.

Whatever the hell that actually means.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:01 pm 
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Sleep in on Good Friday.

Okay seems to be some confusion as to my statement of ivory towers and grass roots. Let me use the politician's explanation of taken out of context.

If you re-read my statement it says I don't mind the current set up ie Carltonians, YCP, if there was also space for the grass roots supporter. A mixture of coterie groups I see nothing wrong with. Join the one you feel comfortable with.

AND THE VITAL ASPECT IS EVERY MEMBER was truly given the benefit of one vote ie not those with deep pockets being co-opted on to the board. Currently the CFC board could be compared with Tony Abbott appointing Gina Reinhart Resources Minister because she is a member of the Liberal Party.


Anyway that's my opinion.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:32 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Ok i'm
Not fussed but I'll expect a full report on my desk in the morning on what they have been brainstorming .
As long as theyre really going some concentrated focus on improving the club and not just using this club for selfish reasons it's OK.
Interested to know what this youth group is made of. Haute to think they're full of it and unaccountable like the rest of their taskmasters. After all this is tomorrow leadership group.. Let's see some action.. And not just the kissing cousins type.


The YCP is a supreme THINK TANK Mr. S

It can solve problems and instill a leading edge culture that other clubs will never be able to emulate or follow. The other clubs will always be one step behind us..

The YCP even has a SUBMIT IDEA button on their website which is sanctioned by OUR club.

Mr S, you too can have the honor of submitting an idea to the executive intellectual panel who will consider it and develop it if it is worthy.

You can click the button Mr S and potentially change the Universe as we know it.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:49 pm 
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The Think Tank review panel with convene and they will consider the merits of your submitted idea and get back to you

The future captains of industry, the supreme collective of intellectual giants NEED your ideas ladies and gentlemen

WE MUST ALL SUBMIT


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:14 pm 
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For the those with the conspiracy theories why not the Carltonians, Women of Carlton, Blues Coterie, and Locker Room as well?

Surely the Locker Room is a melting pot for all the conspirators. Read this from the CFC website

THE LOCKER ROOM is a new facility that offers a day at the football with family, friends or clients in style and comfort. This function will include guest speakers and light entertainment.

I reckon that's scary. :razz:

Behind the family fun are the jihadists of the CFC plotting the fall of this once great club. Give me a break. :roll:

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:18 pm 
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what has conspiracy theory got to do with a caste system???

theyre there on professional status and age.

tell me... would a gardener working for the council get in???

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:47 pm 
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Teddy Hopkins wrote:
Surely the Locker Room is a melting pot for all the conspirators. Read this from the CFC website

THE LOCKER ROOM is a new facility that offers a day at the football with family, friends or clients in style and comfort. This function will include guest speakers and light entertainment.

I reckon that's scary. :razz:

Behind the family fun are the jihadists of the CFC plotting the fall of this once great club. Give me a break. :roll:


C'mon Teddy - you're intelligent to realise that all one has to do to join the Locker Room is give Mandy Hunter a call at the club and she sends out a form for you and your only requirement is you fill out whether you'll be paying with MasterCard or Visa. Doesn't matter how old you are, but it's a casual coterie group. View it as a pricey 8 game membership if you will.

Quite different to the YCP...


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:22 pm 
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We are in good hands ladies and gentlemen.
The future corporate captains of industry have focused some of their talents and valuable time to the health and vibrancy of the great important social icon, and institution The Carlton Football Club.

Yes ladies and gentlemen, we are in the safest of hands.

Let us bow our heads and inferiority to Lord Pilkington (1) the elite master of intellectual potency, the duke of South Yarra, Squire Ronald James Carrignton the third (2), Master Wilbur Shappiro Lewis, esquire (3), the worlds pre eminent social scaffolding expert, The Earl of Brighton, The grand master Phillip Grovington the second (4), an elite web site designer and womanizer of the third degree..

I cannot mention all these intellectual freaks of nature by name, for their genetic records speak for themselves.

We are indeed in the presence of a new species of human ladies and gentlemen

There can be no other explanation.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:51 pm 
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aboynamedsue wrote:
Not quite sure why so much negativity? Perhaps I'm naive, but what harm does a group like this do? If someone else out there thinks they can organise an alternative, why not just have a go at it and wish Josh well his endeavour?

Josh, all the best with this. I hope it benefits Carlton, and if it also helps you personally along the way, well, fair play to you. But I think we all agree the best interests of the club is paramount :thumbsup:

Good call ANS. Can't see any harm in it. I don't qualify but I'm not going join the Carltonians either. If a group with a bit in common want to get together, good on them. We are becoming an ugly group if we want to hammer these guys. Josh Kaplan was always a pretty good poster when he was posting on here. He is clearly a committed Carlton man and good luck to these people. It's something, all most of us are doing is bitching.

I think we all get frustrated at club decisions. If a new fresh regime emerges from this group or any other more power to them. It's possible that they may make an even greater contribution to the club than those of us who slap angry messages on fan forums.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:15 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
what has conspiracy theory got to do with a caste system???

theyre there on professional status and age.

tell me... would a gardener working for the council get in???


Geez Synners can't you tell sarcasm when you see it.

I am all for the grass roots coterie club where the gardener would qualify. I have said as much in a previous post.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:17 pm 
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YCP........YCW........who cares ?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:24 pm 
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DocSherrin wrote:
Teddy Hopkins wrote:
Surely the Locker Room is a melting pot for all the conspirators. Read this from the CFC website

THE LOCKER ROOM is a new facility that offers a day at the football with family, friends or clients in style and comfort. This function will include guest speakers and light entertainment.

I reckon that's scary. :razz:

Behind the family fun are the jihadists of the CFC plotting the fall of this once great club. Give me a break. :roll:


C'mon Teddy - you're intelligent to realise that all one has to do to join the Locker Room is give Mandy Hunter a call at the club and she sends out a form for you and your only requirement is you fill out whether you'll be paying with MasterCard or Visa. Doesn't matter how old you are, but it's a casual coterie group. View it as a pricey 8 game membership if you will.

Quite different to the YCP...


Yes it is but it still has its own albeit less strict requirements.

I don't care about YCP but that they have aligned themselves with CFC means as much due diligence should be done on them as is done on the Carltonians who have somewhat similar objectives and no more.

Any whinging I suggest should be directed to this point otherwise set up a coterie group based on your own objectives.

Has anyone actually approached CFC on either of these points?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:07 pm 
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Teddy Hopkins wrote:

Yes it is but it still has its own albeit less strict requirements.

I don't care about YCP but that they have aligned themselves with CFC means as much due diligence should be done on them as is done on the Carltonians who have somewhat similar objectives and no more.

Any whinging I suggest should be directed to this point otherwise set up a coterie group based on your own objectives.

Has anyone actually approached CFC on either of these points?


Not sure what requirements the Locker Room has other than ponying up some cash. I was going to do that one this season. As for the Carltonians - they've been around a very long time and raised a lot of money for the club. There's no need for another coterie group (although there are considerably less than in the past), and that's not our complaint. It's been spelled out pretty clearly by a few on here and yes - it's been spelled out to a board member or two - but regrettably, that has fallen on deaf ears.


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I reckon the Royal Children's Hospital should be more inclusive as well.

Non Royals and non-children get sick too.

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I reckon the Royal Children's Hospital should be more inclusive as well.

Non Royals and non-children get sick too.


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