The only time Carlton had a proper thought out plan to appoint a coach was when Parkin was nearing retirement - they had a proper transition in place for Parkin to hand over to Brittain.

Since then it has been cheque book appointments or appointing club champions who didn't have the experience.

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Malthouse is a successful and experienced coach.

The first thing that he did, was bring in Robert Willey...which I don't have any issues with. I can understand a new coach wanting someone beside him he can trust and is friends with.

But Mick gave him the Director of coaching and development position.

Yes we have several problems across the club, but so do at least 14 other clubs. And the top clubs are still working on the problems they have as well.

But is Mick getting the best out of the playing list that he has to work with?

Has he improved it since arriving?

Is the team working for each other out on the ground?

(These are all basic senior coach and player issues and responsibilities)

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mick didnt give him the job the club did.

youre confused.

mick doesnt sign the contracts with employees.

and mick didnt appoint himself.. the club appointed mick.

i think youre getting roles very mixed up.....

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i also think ratts showed his leadership mettle when he blamed journeyman rookie curnow for a defeat after blaming hampson for another defeat because he didnt play a good game at chf.....

leadership.....

mckay is showing his leadership right now

everyone can be a leaders when things are going well... try doing it whne things arent.
leadership

read xenophons book 'Anabasis'...
study alexander the great.. or someone like Caesar.

they led from the front.. and they didnt use scapegoats or excuses... because failure was not an option to them

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I'm sure Mick realises the current methodology isn't achieving the desired outcome and I expect he will adjust things throughout the remainder of the year.

I do feel he isn't as stubborn as Pagan was and I do feel he has a better rapport with his players than Pagan ever did.

I'm happy to give him an extension as long as he has an open mind and a vision of a new tactical approach.

I don't think Malthouse would depart without fulfilling all three years of the contract.

Regardless of your thoughts of him as a coach, he's a man with an ego and wouldn't want to have his reputation tarnished by the 'Carlton Debacle' that ended his career.

I'm hoping (praying) that behind closed doors he's a realist and is attempting to put in place some sort of system to rebuild and rejuvenate the list. He's done it before, here's hoping he can do it again. At the very least, he'd want to walk away from something that's not considered a basket-case.

Assuming that's true, the question turns to the management of the club as a whole and would any effort put in by MM, or any senior coach for that matter, be undone by the argued in competencies of the board and CEO.

mathiesons have the balance of power soon.. they are malthouse fans

i think he will be charged with supervising the football restructuring of this footy club.
there will be no real review
but heads will role... only some mind u...
the rest were always around anyway...

what mathiesons philosophy when buying a run down business was .."sack everybody and put the best people in".. in this case it will be sack half...

weird

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Mick and Wiley are a package Mr S.

Yes the club needs to sign up on that.

But a senior coach will bring in a team.

In Micks case, he brought in a mate as an interface between the coaches/players and himself. (and perhaps the club)

You cant excuse the decisions of Gregg Swann for example, as just board decisions. He is the Chief Executive Officer.

Ultimately the board and president cop it in the neck when it goes terrible wrong. That's what will happen at Essendon* if and when infractions arrive on the players door steps.

Remember when the soft Ziggy report was released highlighting governance and recording problems etc? Within two weeks, the CEO Robson resigned ad made an apology to the players parents.

Evans didn't last the year.

It like saying AD really isn't responsible for anything that happens at the AFL, its all Fitzy's and Bill Kelty and co..

the Commission can be held responsible for the big visionary ideas - expansion clubs etc.. and what money is allocated to different areas etc..

every aspect needs to work together cohesively to get good results.

we all know that

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How proper was it?
I liked 'stick fat' but did we see who else was available at the time?

...just like Ratten's appointment, this club has always been mates and cheque books.

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the president is the ultimate leader

he sets the tone

to move away from that means u shouldnt have leaders

cant blame the players for onfield leadership if u dont believe in off field leadership

good teams are led well off field

its never been any different


if u notice i dont worry about Essendon* right now.. i know what will happen

im more interested in shining the spotlight on our club...

the rest is deflection of the worst kind.

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if fraser brown said "Ratts can coach this club with his eyes closed " thats good enough a reason to give ratts the job of carlton head coach

"Carlton swagger"

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Is Evans the root cause of the doping mess at Essendon*?

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That was after Ratts had the laser surgery

Mick wears spectacles

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as president youd have to say he is...

unless your leaders arent leaders.

he obviously led or was led... but he was the skipper.

are u saying evans is not responsible for what happened at Essendon* as the president???

so elliott wasnt responsible .. but we kicked him out ... because ummmmmmmm someone was captain???? we should have gone after the team captain??? was it braddles???

its a leadership thing...

leaders are the top of the tree....


he sets the tone...

besides .. having everyone mates and nobody responsible leads to the mess Essendon* are in and were in

furthermore... if they get out of trouble... are you saying hird led them to safety???...
obviously the person thats leading Essendon* is their president....

im not actually following your line of thought in all this.....

what exactly are u saying??.. that boards and presidents dont matter to how a club is ultimately run and its decisions and paths the club follows???

please try to give me some attempt at logic .....very hard to understand what youre saying...

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Mick will be on Footy Classified tonight.
Hope they put some good hard questions to him, and don't go to water like Darcy, Carey and Watson did on Talking Footy a few weeks back.

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You only extend someone's contract if he is highly successful in his current position and is highly demanded elsewhere.

Mick is not!

He is rude, obnoxious, self centred and embarrassing.

Eddie got rid of him at the right time and burdened him to their greatest rival as one of the most supreme stings of all time.

..you think..?.. ..whether or not mm is our saviour, Eddie certainly did not get rid of mm at the right time.. ..he made a top consistent four team, with years left on the clock, top two team last two years for a flag and a very respectable runners up.. ..post mm, pies have tumbled down the ladder.. ..tumbled..

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..if you can't be good, be good at it..

hes probably going to be coach... at this stage cant see him not being coach....

he has the genuine support of the people who matter,,, believe me...!!

my guess is after this season is done and dusted... huge changes will be made... but not to micks job.

people better start getting used to the idea.... because i am not making it up

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I do think.

Out coach by his apprentice with his own players.

Saviour, what a load of crap.

when u look at the world one word of advice to most people is do not look at something in isolation.. which is what a lot of you blokes are doing
try to put it into its correct context

this organisation is riddled with problems...
from top to bottom
our list management
recruiting
development
and leadership is non existent


the world is a very different place from 4 years ago

back then we were telling everybody how young we are
now were second oldest

nothing has been coming through

u need stuff coming through all the time to keep yurself healthy

lucas
watson
bootsma

are dead in the water
blokes like bower and grigg and hampson as well as russell are gone
then we have the mystery of what happened to all our second and third rounders
and the crazy thing about hbfers who have come and gone... obviously unable to field any void

somebody has been responsible and that somebody is everybody who makes decisions around the club over the last few years....

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