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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:09 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Actually president is no certainty to be gone.....

you better believe it...!!!

A nd what time???

20 years ????

30 years????

35 ???

were falling behind.... some people dont wanna face it.

Were average.. and dropping



If he does not stick to his word and go, that will be a total disgrace. He has been known as a fence sitter, unable to make decisions until too late and the decision is made for him, but to back down on this change of leadership statement would be done only for his own self gratification. For him to enjoy the fruits of the 150 years celebration. Anyone, and I mean anyone who puts self interest before my club should be ridiculed.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:19 pm 
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Andyblue wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Actually president is no certainty to be gone.....

you better believe it...!!!

A nd what time???

20 years ????

30 years????

35 ???

were falling behind.... some people dont wanna face it.

Were average.. and dropping



If he does not stick to his word and go, that will be a total disgrace. He has been known as a fence sitter, unable to make decisions until too late and the decision is made for him, but to back down on this change of leadership statement would be done only for his own self gratification. For him to enjoy the fruits of the 150 years celebration. Anyone, and I mean anyone who puts self interest before my club should be ridiculed.

i ridicule him for being AFLs worst administrator... i dont need to have him find new depths for the club to get 'stucks' into him...i en joy giving him 'Sticks' cos he deserves it and pretends he doesnt....
There has never been a worst administrator in my memory .. This dark era has his 'Sticky' fingers all over it.
From O'Reilly.. (which he is very touchy about it mind you... he hates anyone bringing that up ).to the Elliot backer... to the botched up Pagan coup... which came after the Pagan Malouf Smorgo Sticks alliance... to the Ratts appointments ...
Has anybody backed so many losers before and still come out Sticksing like roses?
Plato said "You deserve the leaders you have"... and we do!!.. this guy could never get away with all this if it wasnt for the sheepies

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:09 pm 
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Some-one seems a little upset that Sticksy wants to stay on........yipppeee..


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:59 pm 
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Some-one seems a little upset that Sticksy wants to stay on........yipppeee..

This is a monster post!!! :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:25 pm 
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Sticks is doing nothing wrong currently Synbad. Your obsession with him is disgraceful!
He is fighting a good fight and even bowed to board room pressure in his last major decision, unlike other previous presidents.
Get off his back and let the Carlton legend decide when and how he wants to move on.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:32 pm 
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As much as you hate him, gotta admire David Evans in his role as he deals with the current drugs crisis at Essendon*. Can you imagine Sticks doing that if it ever happened to us??? Same with Fat Ed.

Great onfield leader but not up to it off-field at all.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:37 pm 
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David Evans looked like death warmed up immediately after a great win last night......I'd say the governance of his board will be found out as the worst in AFL history...

Not too sure I'd be making him as the example

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 7:04 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Sticks is doing nothing .... currently Synbad. Your obsession with him is disgraceful!

let the Carlton legend decide when and how he wants to move on.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:00 am 
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Dear <name>,

The 2011 AFL season kicks off in just over two weeks time and once again Carlton will be involved in the season opening game. This year we have a home game against Richmond at the MCG on Thursday March 24th with the match commencing at 7:40pm.

It will be the start of what promises to be an exciting and hopefully successful year for the Carlton Football Club and we are delighted that you are part of the Club in 2011.

As we have improved in recent years, the expectations have grown and this year we aim to continue to improve. Our objective is to once again be involved in the finals and to take another step and make sure we win a final. This is important for our development and once a team enjoys finals success it becomes part of the culture and gives everyone confidence going forward.

All Carlton people are aware of our wonderful history, the ultimate success the Club has enjoyed on sixteen occasions in the AFL. While we cannot live in the past, acknowledging and recognising those people that have helped create our history is important.

On Saturday March 26, the Carlton Hall of Fame Dinner, celebrating the 1981/82 Carlton premiership reunion will be held at Crown. This is a very important night for the Carlton Football Club as we honour those people who have played a significant role in our Club. During this function we will be inducting five new people into the Carlton Hall of Fame and one current Hall of Fame Member will be elevated to Legend Status.

Together with the celebrations of the 1981/82 Carlton Premiership reunion, this promises to be a very special night for Carlton people.

As part of the desire to acknowledge our history, the Spirit of Carlton – past and present, has assisted with the funding of a cabinet at Visy Park that enables us to display Carlton memorabilia for supporters to enjoy. The current display features the 1981/82 Grand Finals, including the Norm Smith Medal won by Bruce Doull in 1981.

While we must never forget what has happened in the past, it is now and the future that is most important for everyone at the Carlton Football Club. We know 2011 is shaping as a critical season in our ongoing development on the field as we strive to build a team that will win the Club's 17th AFL Premiership.

After months of discussion between the Board and Senior Management, together with consultants, we have released our five year plan – Carlton's Blue Print for now and the future. This is about taking the club forward from 2010.

In recent years we have strived to ensure we provide the very best facilities and support for the players and this culminated in the opening of the world-class facilities at Visy Park in 2010. While we will continue to ensure Carlton has the best resourced football department, this is just one element of the important strategic plan.

The Board believes it is important for everyone involved with the Carlton Football Club to be aware of the key elements of the Carlton Blue Print. This includes the Carlton Values and the Club's Strategic Objectives:

The Carlton Values:
Integrity
Teamwork
Innovation
Leadership
Excellence

Carlton's Objectives – By the end of the 2015 AFL season we will have:
Premierships – sustained success, including winning our 17th premiership, leading to winning two premierships by 2015
Supporters & Stakeholders – largest engaged supporter base
Brand – highest rating 'value for money' services for members, sponsors and supporters among our peers
People – attract, develop and retain a remarkable team of high performers
Financial – best resourced football department, sustainable surpluses for investment and a healthy balance sheet
A more detailed summary of the strategic plan has been released on the Carlton website for you to view. Click here to view the Carlton Blue Print online.

Importantly the Strategic Plan is more than words and ideas; it has true meaning and is part of the culture of the Carlton Football Club. This is a living plan, one that everyone at Carlton; the Board, Management, Staff, Coaches and players will live by. We believe it is a true blue print for our future and trust it provides you with confidence in what the future holds for your Club.

The Carlton Football Club promise is to be uncompromising in pursuit of sustained success and our mission is to win premierships and provide amazing experiences. This is part of our trademark and the benchmark for how the Club operates today, tomorrow and in the future.

We thank you for being an important part of the Carlton Football Club and look forward to enjoying a fantastic season together, commencing on Thursday March 24 at the MCG.

Yours sincerely



Stephen Kernahan
Carlton Football Club President
Member #1018328


This is what the board and executive wanted to be measured on. So it's time to apply the focus onto the board's inability to deliver on, more than likely, none of the objectives and missing by a long long way.

Lets also state on the record the Club was aiming for 60k which was a public metric they went to market with last year so we could move to the MCG.

If this was a public Company, do you think the CEO would still in place after such a major miss? Do you think the Chairman would be in a position to retain his seat?

So how have we measured up?

Premierships = FAIL
Supporters & Stakeholders = FAIL (Don't give me social media stats)
Brand = ?
People = FAIL
Financial = FAIL (Reliance on pokies, otherwise what makes us sustainable without them?)


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:41 am 
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Synbad seems to me that a lot of posters on this site are waiting for you to say I TOLD YOU SO but you and rightly so don't need to they should all know by now your thoughts on our current predicament so maybe it would be nice to see a few of the " experts " we have on this site who are more interested in trying to be wise guys and make a joke of the things you have been telling them for years than thinking about the club we all obviously love to swallow some humble pie and begin to think that maybe just maybe you maybe YOU MAY HAVE BEEN RIGHT !!!!!!!!!!!

Keep the home truths coming they need to be told !!!


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:46 am 
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King Kenny wrote:
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Dear <name>,

The 2011 AFL season kicks off in just over two weeks time and once again Carlton will be involved in the season opening game. This year we have a home game against Richmond at the MCG on Thursday March 24th with the match commencing at 7:40pm.

It will be the start of what promises to be an exciting and hopefully successful year for the Carlton Football Club and we are delighted that you are part of the Club in 2011.

As we have improved in recent years, the expectations have grown and this year we aim to continue to improve. Our objective is to once again be involved in the finals and to take another step and make sure we win a final. This is important for our development and once a team enjoys finals success it becomes part of the culture and gives everyone confidence going forward.

All Carlton people are aware of our wonderful history, the ultimate success the Club has enjoyed on sixteen occasions in the AFL. While we cannot live in the past, acknowledging and recognising those people that have helped create our history is important.

On Saturday March 26, the Carlton Hall of Fame Dinner, celebrating the 1981/82 Carlton premiership reunion will be held at Crown. This is a very important night for the Carlton Football Club as we honour those people who have played a significant role in our Club. During this function we will be inducting five new people into the Carlton Hall of Fame and one current Hall of Fame Member will be elevated to Legend Status.

Together with the celebrations of the 1981/82 Carlton Premiership reunion, this promises to be a very special night for Carlton people.

As part of the desire to acknowledge our history, the Spirit of Carlton – past and present, has assisted with the funding of a cabinet at Visy Park that enables us to display Carlton memorabilia for supporters to enjoy. The current display features the 1981/82 Grand Finals, including the Norm Smith Medal won by Bruce Doull in 1981.

While we must never forget what has happened in the past, it is now and the future that is most important for everyone at the Carlton Football Club. We know 2011 is shaping as a critical season in our ongoing development on the field as we strive to build a team that will win the Club's 17th AFL Premiership.

After months of discussion between the Board and Senior Management, together with consultants, we have released our five year plan – Carlton's Blue Print for now and the future. This is about taking the club forward from 2010.

In recent years we have strived to ensure we provide the very best facilities and support for the players and this culminated in the opening of the world-class facilities at Visy Park in 2010. While we will continue to ensure Carlton has the best resourced football department, this is just one element of the important strategic plan.

The Board believes it is important for everyone involved with the Carlton Football Club to be aware of the key elements of the Carlton Blue Print. This includes the Carlton Values and the Club's Strategic Objectives:

The Carlton Values:
Integrity
Teamwork
Innovation
Leadership
Excellence

Carlton's Objectives – By the end of the 2015 AFL season we will have:
Premierships – sustained success, including winning our 17th premiership, leading to winning two premierships by 2015
Supporters & Stakeholders – largest engaged supporter base
Brand – highest rating 'value for money' services for members, sponsors and supporters among our peers
People – attract, develop and retain a remarkable team of high performers
Financial – best resourced football department, sustainable surpluses for investment and a healthy balance sheet
A more detailed summary of the strategic plan has been released on the Carlton website for you to view. Click here to view the Carlton Blue Print online.

Importantly the Strategic Plan is more than words and ideas; it has true meaning and is part of the culture of the Carlton Football Club. This is a living plan, one that everyone at Carlton; the Board, Management, Staff, Coaches and players will live by. We believe it is a true blue print for our future and trust it provides you with confidence in what the future holds for your Club.

The Carlton Football Club promise is to be uncompromising in pursuit of sustained success and our mission is to win premierships and provide amazing experiences. This is part of our trademark and the benchmark for how the Club operates today, tomorrow and in the future.

We thank you for being an important part of the Carlton Football Club and look forward to enjoying a fantastic season together, commencing on Thursday March 24 at the MCG.

Yours sincerely



Stephen Kernahan
Carlton Football Club President
Member #1018328


This is what the board and executive wanted to be measured on. So it's time to apply the focus onto the board's inability to deliver on, more than likely, none of the objectives and missing by a long long way.

Lets also state on the record the Club was aiming for 60k which was a public metric they went to market with last year so we could move to the MCG.

If this was a public Company, do you think the CEO would still in place after such a major miss? Do you think the Chairman would be in a position to retain his seat?

So how have we measured up?

Premierships = FAIL
Supporters & Stakeholders = FAIL (Don't give me social media stats)
Brand = ?
People = FAIL
Financial = FAIL (Reliance on pokies, otherwise what makes us sustainable without them?)

Let's have a look at...

The Carlton Values:
Integrity :lol:
Teamwork :lol: :lol:
Innovation :lol:
Leadership :lol: :lol: :lol:
Excellence :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 12:03 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Sticks is doing nothing wrong currently Synbad. Your obsession with him is disgraceful!
He is fighting a good fight and even bowed to board room pressure in his last major decision, unlike other previous presidents.
Get off his back and let the Carlton legend decide when and how he wants to move on.


:lol:

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 12:10 pm 
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grrofunger wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Sticks is doing nothing wrong currently Synbad. Your obsession with him is disgraceful!
He is fighting a good fight and even bowed to board room pressure in his last major decision, unlike other previous presidents.
Get off his back and let the Carlton legend decide when and how he wants to move on.


:lol:


What a joke! More like Sticks is doing nothing right. He should @#$%&! off immediately. Even a monkey could do the job on an interim basis until a real President surfaces.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 12:17 pm 
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Wow. What grim reading that letter/email makes for.

Have we hit any of the indicators they set out to? The funny thing is I can sort of forgive the not winning premierships thing, simply because anyone with any semblance of sanity knows how hard they are to win.

All the other, operational stuff? We couldn't be further from functioning satisfactorily.

Those pillars they set out, innovation, excellence, leadership etc? Not one of them to be seen - or more importantly felt - anywhere in the club.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 12:19 pm 
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As long as we all realise that this is not Dr Strangelove's fault ... nor is it Carlton's fault for appointing him. It was a great and insightful decision. :thumbsup:

Doesn't matter that we have rapidly moved backwards ... doesn't matter that we employ tactics that just don't work against modern coaching techniques ... it doesn't matter that the players have lost all confidence. It doesn't matter that dumb decisions are made weekly by the MC

What matters is Dr Strangelove was a magical appointment.

Onward! :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 12:20 pm 
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Who agreed with the sacking of Ratts decision and his replacement?

Mick was a Sticks appointment in the end - even though he hinted at getting Roos - who didn't want to coach then, and probably didn't want to come to carlton anyway (who knows)

This isn't just about Sticks as President - no matter how poor he has been and that the buck must stop with him.

as a side issue, WADA wont blame Evans for the mess at Essendon* - they put the blame on the players but their agenda is very narrow and relates to athletes adhering to the drug code.

In the end Evans will be the head of the club that should and will take the responsibility (even if he was shut out of the scam from subordinates etc - which I doubt is the case anyway - that's why he stood down in the end)

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 12:21 pm 
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maybe some of the players were eating sandwiches during dr Strangeloves team meetings?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 12:25 pm 
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Cretylus wrote:
Who agreed with the sacking of Ratts decision and his replacement?

Mick was a Sticks appointment in the end - even though he hinted at getting Roos - who didn't want to coach then, and probably didn't want to come to carlton anyway (who knows)

This isn't just about Sticks as President - no matter how poor he has been and that the buck must stop with him.

as a side issue, WADA wont blame Evans for the mess at Essendon** - they put the blame on the players but their agenda is very narrow and relates to athletes adhering to the drug code.

In the end Evans will be the head of the club that should and will take the responsibility (even if he was shut out of the scam from subordinates etc - which I doubt is the case anyway - that's why he stood down in the end)


Ratts had to go. He was a problem, not a solution. We are where we find ourselves because of the Football Dept he presided over.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 12:35 pm 
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The passive attitude of most of the onfield leaders is an indictment on the Ratten era.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 12:36 pm 
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Manchego Cheese wrote:
Cretylus wrote:
Who agreed with the sacking of Ratts decision and his replacement?

Mick was a Sticks appointment in the end - even though he hinted at getting Roos - who didn't want to coach then, and probably didn't want to come to carlton anyway (who knows)

This isn't just about Sticks as President - no matter how poor he has been and that the buck must stop with him.

as a side issue, WADA wont blame Evans for the mess at Essendon*** - they put the blame on the players but their agenda is very narrow and relates to athletes adhering to the drug code.

In the end Evans will be the head of the club that should and will take the responsibility (even if he was shut out of the scam from subordinates etc - which I doubt is the case anyway - that's why he stood down in the end)


Ratts had to go. He was a problem, not a solution. We are where we find ourselves because of the Football Dept he presided over.


Possible the Football Dept might presided over him. That might've been the problem.


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