Robert Wiley is director of coaching and development. Genius appointment by MM

Brad Green brought in by MM as a green assistant straight out of the game (get it green assistant!) to oversee the most critical area of the modern game, the midfield. All because MM got along with brad green at an international Gaelic football series. Where did Green play most of his footy again?

No problem with Green being recruited, maybe give him Barkers post in the forward line. Barker stale after 6 years. Should have also looked at a replacement for Cappuano in the ruck area.

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These prima donas on the @#$%&! board, need to look at themselves and be accountable and @#$%&! off, the CEO needs to be held accountable and told to @#$%&! off, ALL of them, ALL of them and start fresh and get it right. The DNA at the club needs a total reboot. We are just another club.

There is no direction or vision of a future. Shit, even the media couldn't predict where we will finish or where we are at, let alone our supporters!!! All the club do is cling to the past glories, but cannot then put a plan in place to bring this to life on and off the field like the dawks have.

Very disgruntled with all at the club. @#$%&!!!!!

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For some silly reason, you people want to assassinate him, and it's just rubbish. You people. All of you, ALL of you!

Thats the spirit...

You will find blokes like doc sherrin cazzman will spin that things are getting better...not perfect, but we are heading in the right direction....bollocks i say

Im predicting a crisis by mid season if our on field performances continue....

Absolutely synbad, evidence, as aside from an opinion

ok so mj... were finally at the end game with your argument that theyre not Oligarchs and are stacking the board.
so even though i have illustrated that of the last 7 odd inclusions onto the game.. THREE are direct family members the rest are direct appointees.. all invited onto the board by one family or the other.. and the guys on the board are mushy types... and people coming through the direct democratically elected process are being blockaded..by those inside... i must now





and thats your argument???


i dont think the vast majority of people believe you... maybe Doc says he does.. but i know he doesnt...
and the Duke guy... well we already went for a walk through his garden of thoughts.. not one fountain working there.....
so its basically you...id go as far to say that there is a remote control that works you...

unfortunately the gravity of logic flies in the face of the bedtime story youre spinning...
That the moneybags around the club dont control its fortunes...

But full points for trying to cover up how an oligarchy tyoe of set up... is really a transparent multi dimensional footy club

im sure u can go back to your masters and tell them you tried you best....they wont put you to the sword...

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Whats McKays role in all this footy dept stuff...
does he have a role to fulfill properly or do we turn a blind eye to what his role is supposed to be and how hes performing also?
All footy dept matters have traceability back to this bloke.. and yet it seems nobody discussed him either

i have a theory... the 95 guys are determined to be remembered for delivering the last flag to the club...
the best way of doing that is hijacking the club and running it into the ground with the help of some Oligarchs... Fraser Brown included...

Hard to see why else there is a concentration of so much power in ex players who are no good at what they do.... along with some fat cat friends.

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Can we swap Ollie Garch for Ollie Wines?

Hope the Malthouse appointment doesn't mirror the Pagan debacle.

Thats another statement synbad bereft of evidence. Your hunch because you know how things are run.

Michael Jezz,
actually... most people would agree with me
youre sitting in the Raheen living room in front of the fire and patting the corgy...arent you???
Go on,,,, tell me there is no corgy in the joint......

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All you do is cast aspersions and do not stick to the point. How does pet ownership relate to the issue. It's easy to make statements and not support them. Just go through point by point how they appointed the majority of the board. List each board member and demonstrate with evidence on how they were appointed including facing a members vote. So bruce and Jeanne appointed
Kernahan, glee son, trainor, Clarke, frid etc

Come on MJ
Are you for real that you can't see our board is an engineered one?

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Jeannie Pratt son in law Geminder and Mathieson were all invited rather than voted in I think.

Ok ok.. you win Mj...

The club is mostly influenced by Newton, Greg Lee , Marcus Clarke and Bear.. etc..

The real powers in the shadows...

were all convinced...!!!

MJ .. is the food at raheen really unbelievably good???

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as were people they came with....

like the noahs ark animals they were mostly coming in pairs.....into the ark..
invited on by either of those 2 families

by definition that kind of set up is board stacking and an oligarchy.

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Yes synbad the families have influence (go back to my first post). They have had next to no influence other than the appointment of malthouse on football issues. This is a completely different issue from control.

Please get a reality check MJ

All Board appointments under our Constitution are by way of invitation only, by a current Board Member.

There are no more than 13 Directors.

If an external candidate (member only) independant of any current Director intends to run for the Board, an election by all Members is required.

When a person outside applies for Board, the current Board then try and talk that candidate out from running - "it costs too much money"

Trainor tried to run twice I recall before getting on the Board.

So, if a Director comes on by invitation only, there is scope for factions and favorites...

What is the difference between a managerial role and a chief ecexutive role?

McKay as a manager, does just that, oversees the daily operations of the football department. That means managing budget, staff, purchases, etc...

Swann's role as CEO is basically the foot soldier of the board. That is the philosophy and direction of the board is channeled through the CEO.

This power demarcation does not mean that the board or swann picks the team or decides on the game plan etc.

So although McKay is overall manager of the football department, he wil not have a say in what Wiley does as director of coaching and development. The manager makes sure everything runs smoothly and on budget....

A good example is to ask the following question relating to the EFC* drug doping scam.

"Apart from the players who are directly responsible for what goes into their veins and stomachs, WHO is held responsible at the EFC* for the drug doping program".?

Evans? Hird? Dank? Reid? Thompson? Robson?

Who ?

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...and the senior coach appointment is the most important non playing position at a club is it not?

It can take the club's fortunes on the field in all sorts of directions,

See the EFC* with regards to the switch from knights to Hird several years ago, that worked out well didnt it

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cretylus are u serious?????

mckay buys and cuts the oranges as football operations manager
and malthouse hired himself.. therefore is the most important man at the club???
so ratts hired himself.. and he sacked himself???


i think you got your hierarchy mixed up

simple to do if you look at things the wrong way around i suppose.


president chairs the board... the board sets the direction of the club.

they hire an operations manager.. but if he doesnt do what they want they fire him...
that operations manager will find a host of people including recruiter.. coach and footy manager..
but everything will be rubber stamped by the board.
there should be a bunch of checks and balances.. all over the club and the coach is answerable to the bboard as is the ceo and the footy manager and the recruiter etc

the coach doesnt run the club.. and the board have executive powers.



so the coaches job is important.. but hes answerable as is everybody else to the custodians.. the directors and president
so thats flower ridiculous....

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