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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:25 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
Mick coached well. Made the adjustments we needed to win ... we coulda won by 4 goals by the end.

Garlett's kicking for goal is deplorable. I swear every time robinson gets the ball he kicks it straight to them.

Murphy played the best game I've seen him have since Judd was in his prime. Daisy was clever, Buckley could be a gun, Menzel has potential, and Everitt did some good things.

Probably more positives that I woulda thought possible.



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:26 pm 
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Not seen a second of it. Won't.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:27 pm 
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malthouse said everitt was sensational

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:27 pm 
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Effes wrote:
bluedog wrote:
Effes wrote:
Last qtr


7 behinds





So many of them gettable.

All of them forgettable!


Forgot to add

2 out on the full




Felt like many many more than 2 .


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:28 pm 
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dablues wrote:
Did anybody else find the holding the ball decision unusual? How many we're not paid to us? And they got most of theirs for identical scenarios ...very frustrating!
Push in the back to ROwe for Vickery's first mark then umps pin Rowe for identical play up the ground?


I think it was Newman on the boundary at one stage with prior and someone on him and just half dropped half tossed the ball over.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:29 pm 
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dannyboy wrote:
I thought pass it to richmond might have worked, maybe we just kicked it to the wrong blokes?

And I liked the idea of a slow, plodding midfield to stand by and watch them run. Learning all the time.


:lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:32 pm 
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Why aren't people putting Yarran in their
Pros? I thought it was his best game for us.

Buckley & Yarran stand outs
Murph & Thomas led from the front
Menzel & Lucas showed enough
Hendo was dominant
Everitt was woeful early just bombing blind but was exceptional once given the role on Deledio


Waite & Garlett were woeful
Gibbs couldn't handle a tag and let the tag score a couple while he was at it
Robbo, McLean, Curnow & Bell are to inefficient & are liabilities, need to get rid of one ASAP, possibly 2
Rowe won't ever be a reliable KPP
Why does the VFL always have the week off when we need someone to step up???

Unfortunately Cachia, Graham, Carazzo & Judd are well known for their foot skills either.

Need to draft for natural ability for the next 5yrs.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:34 pm 
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Molly wrote:
They say stupidity is doing the same things over and over and expecting a different result. We're the kings of stupidity because we stuffed up our rebuild. Every week we take to the field with:

A slow and unaccountable midfield
No height or size in the key positions
Limited ball winning ability
No superstars
Limited ruckmen

But we have no depth to cover any of these deficiencies because we never draft. The Psychologist could answer this, but when was the last draft where we took more than three players? Was it 2010? The reason I ask is that you're hitting and hoping to fill deficiencies when you take one player in the vain effort of filling a gap - especially when your draft record in the second and third rounds is as poor as ours.

To finish things off, the club never levels with us. Each year they recruit rather than draft and hint that we are heading for top 4. I kind of get the trade for Thomas because Micky would have wanted to get someone in to show the others how to play his brand of footy. But trades for Docherty and Everitt were beyond me in a draft which seemed to have a bit of depth until about pick forty.

To demonstrate what I'm on about, here's a question: if you want to add pace to our midfield from outside tonight's squad, who are you going to call up? It's an indictment on our list management.


Everitt was a swap of second rounders and we may (just may) have taken Giles with that higher pick anyway, however, you are right. We recruit and draft players in dribs and drabs and target our most glaring deficiencies rather than target players. It's recruiting based on the negative rather than the positive. We neglect far more than we make up.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:36 pm 
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Pro:
Buckley and Menzel

Hampson and Grigg running into each other

Con:

Everything else


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:37 pm 
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Warnock would have had more contested handballs from the bottom of the pack than any other Carlton player tonight.

The need for an extractor is URGENT.

GET CRIPPS.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:41 pm 
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Forgot to mention Everitt's job on Deledio. He did destroy him and kicked a couple too :thumbsup:


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:42 pm 
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The Yes Man wrote:
Warnock would have had more contested handballs from the bottom of the pack than any other Carlton player tonight.

The need for an extractor is URGENT.

GET CRIPPS.


We've got him already :roll:


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:43 pm 
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Need to draft for natural ability for the next 5yrs.


Elite kicking skills please!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:43 pm 
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Everitt absolutely owned Deledio after the 1st. Great game.
Did Brock not go to the huddle during the 3rd quarter break (couldn't hear the commentary just saw Brick sulking on the bench)? If so, VFL is worthy after that complete shizen effort!


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:43 pm 
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Tonight showed how [REDACTED] the MC is - Buckley should have played last week. As should casboult.

Not too surprising that we looked shit when we bombed it long and significantly better when we run/spread/retain possession - malthouse needs to change his game plan to accommodate the players we have.

Robbo/curnow/bell/mclean/ellard should not all be in the same team - pick 2 of them at most and bring in the likes of graham, cripps, holman, arm field etc


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:44 pm 
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Back from the game
Yarran BOG for mine
Buckley very good
Tiges midfield tore us apart in the 1st half, we hardly touched it
3rd quarter evened up
Last quarter we had all the ball
2 goals 6 behinds from your 2 best forwards and you lose - even 4 goals 4 and we win
After watching the last 2 games live this was a better effort
Waite was very good EXCEPT for the goal kicking
Rowe for mine was a definite upgrade on Watson, last half he competed well
Don't think I'll watch next week though.....


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:44 pm 
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MIL wrote:
azzablue wrote:
Blue Tongue wrote:
grrofunger wrote:
club29 wrote:
Players just don't seem to know what to do out there.



this is incredibly evident

stands out like dogs balls


Very sad that after 10 years of recruiting we have so many dumb footballers? Wayne Hughes legacy :banghead:


lets not do a hirdy here,,,the buck stops at the top...kernahan and swann fault for allowing wayne hughes to stay on for so long and then to side with hughes when he wanted matthew Watson and ratts wanted jack darling !!!

and lets not forget that hughes went for kruser instead of Dangerfield and lucas instead of fyfe and he only was sacked this year ...laughable!!!


Say it slowly and then puke:

Dangerfield
Darling
Fyfe

And THAT folks is why we're flowered.


and lets not forget we should of thrown everything at GWS for Tom Boyd but kruser and gibbs were untouchable ...ala Sheedy with freo to get a young Matthew Lloyd

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:46 pm 
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The Yes Man wrote:
Warnock would have had more contested handballs from the bottom of the pack than any other Carlton player tonight.

The need for an extractor is URGENT.

GET CRIPPS.



The over reliance on Judd for the last few years sticks out so much when he isn't playing. Look at the first half, when we were annihilated I'm the middle!


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:47 pm 
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Pafloyul wrote:
Everitt was a swap of second rounders and we may (just may) have taken Giles with that higher pick anyway, however, you are right. We recruit and draft players in dribs and drabs and target our most glaring deficiencies rather than target players. It's recruiting based on the negative rather than the positive. We neglect far more than we make up.


Plus, what is unseen is often seen and what we neglect to draft for in terms of practical means is dwarfed by what we do not draft for in practical means which means in essence that we do not draft with an eye to what the future is, in reality we draft with an eye to what the past is and even when we draft with an eye to the future it is a buck rodgers type future which may look like the future but in actual fact is just some actors in skin tight jumpsuits. Pafloyal has been warning us for years that recruiting based on perceived needs rather than quantifiable and measurable wants that are also based on list structure, grumpiness about how the local council are not mowing the local park properly and the lack of sufficient philosophical rigour in choosing and gaining draft picks.

These things are important, and will continue to be seen as important by all the people that know they are important.

Luckily we know who those people are.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:51 pm 
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Home from the game, disappointed at losing but many positives to come out of the match..
Frustrating last quarter where we blew it big time, should have won in the end.
Yarran was good, loved the game of Buckley (brought back memories ). Menzel has class, Murphy was good all day and Thomas showed his class.
3 goals 7 in the last quarter, running all over them and just couldnt kick those ones that counted. What was Garlett thinking?
I think Simpson may be in trouble with the MRP but the Richmond player did dive into him head first so who knows.
Not as angry as the round 1 loss.


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