Synbad, You can use all the terms and clever language to be persuasive to push a point.

You may have many fans for what you put forward and as I've told you, I like you, I really do............but what are you going to do? Talk or act?

Act and I'm behind you.........Talk? Sorry, but not particularity interested..........I hear it every week.

Sherrin!! What are you up to?

not everyone is a minimalist

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So deliver evidence as to how they have stacked the board which I guess means voted candidates on there? Remember Farhour is your man synbad.

I think you can do it big C! Chase that record!

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i actually dont like when someone says theyre behind me harks.
you dont need to be interested in my contributions....

but you should understand political history in order to understand whats going on here...

things dont happen because i click my finger harks.... but things do happen....
not because of me... because the people understand there is a problem and they all want change....

cant happen with me.. and u behind me ... (not that i would ever dream of having u behind me harks... ) i know better.....

but before anything must be done... people must awaken from their slumber... and its a numbers game
just as the mathiesons think they now have the numbers... we must get the numbers to hot the critical point also.
when more people than not wish for some kind of change...

in the meantime harks.. u can learn all i have to say... and teach it to 10.. and get ten of them to do the same thing to ten others.. and do that till that critical point is reached
ive taught what i think to ten harks... do you think you can do what i have done???

you cant can u/??

see.. its because of people like u i slow down.... i have to do my ten.. then your ten.. and then their ten.....

educating the masses first harks.. and then once u have done that and people understand whats going on then... and only then... do we have people armed with information... to go seek liberation.

whats your contribution harks?? mccartney.. mitchell? .. lucas??.. watson??.. davies and joseph??? i could have told u what has and will happen to them.. and i didnt go to many bullants games.


and dont patronise me...

remember there always might be a critical tipping point in anything
each loss we get stronger.. we can wait.. atm were still weaker than they are.. but they are getting weaker too.. and chinks are showing in their armour... the weaker they get harks... the bigger the chinks

might get weaker again after richmond... im hoping we mop the floor with them.. but say the team loses....

are they in a stronger position than before?

i think not...

go read that chinamans book on warfare.....i read it !!!... twice....

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ok, I will try.
I may not succeed but at least I will try.
I can assure everyone that I will at least try.
No half arsed attempts, just 100% effort all the way until the end.
Never give up until the record is broken.
Well at least threaten the record to the best of ability.
That much i can assure you.
If I do fall short of the record it wont be though lack of trying.
that much is certain.
The effort that I will put into this record chase will be A1 and brim full of commitment, strength and integrity.
I wont be leaving anything out on the field, thats for sure
You can be guaranteed of that.
Yes siree Bob.
Total commitment to the breaking of the record
I mean, that's all I can do is give it my best shot.
You cant ask me to put in anything more than that.
And I will do exactly that - put in 100% effort, 100% of the time.
You can be assured of that.
If I do happen to fail in the record attempt it will not be due to lack of effort.
I am willing to sign a document to that effect.
If you need a witness, I can provide a witness if it will make you feel at ease with my commitment to this record breaking attempt.
Total supreme effort, with every ounce of my being and channeling every drop of energy that I can muster
I will devote every minute of my time, to this effort - dont you worry about that
there wont be any half attempts or side lane shifty business with me.
Total 100%, effort. Nothing less

...bit like most of our players.

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fahour is an outsider...

ok he was (allegedly brought in because he gave the australia post contract for boxes to visy....
he came in with another pratt appt in sayer ... to go with germider and Mark LoGiudice with mrs pratt coming in earlier
meanwhile sayers and fahour were offset and counter balanced by the arrival of craig mathieson and ryan trainor from the mathieson side...

all these apointments were made by two familes... meanwhile neutrals who have attempted to gate crash the carlton footy club board party have been blocked at elections.. with some pretty sshift use of cfc official letters etc....

thats called an oligarchy

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mj anything else you wish to talk about???

why dont u ask your mates why harry mitchell isnt on the board...

and another thing from a very powerful heavyweight powerbroker at carlton

"Fahour leaves a trail of destruction everywhere he goes" code for..... "he will upset the applecart here (Pratt and Mathieson balance of power)

Certainly isnt coss he is less qualified than sticks.. or whoever else.
And they also know... one thing.

Fahour to protect himself will need to break down the culture structure of the footy club.
he will need to... because it would be his only chance to survive.....
so the way i see it...

if a guy can run the nab
and he can run aussie post

and he is going to bring down the cultural wall..
and he doesnt hav a mssive fan base inside the club (like jeff at hawthorn) he will accomplish 2 things
kill the culture (leave a trail of destruction behind him..., its not ike we have built something marvelous like the acropolis approx circa 450 BC
They have been busy building shit!!!


and be a regal who can be brought down alot easier if he doesnt perform....

doesnt sound like a bad idea to me..

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Synbad your post is a complete fabrication. So kernahan is their stooge but they plant Farhour who you support to further an agenda and he does not get board support. Keep making it up as you go along

How do you know it's a fabrication?
What part don't you believe and why?
Who is paying you? You seem to be in the pockets of Someone.pure
Reread what I said. It makes sense. Don't you worry... Most other people can make heads or 'tales'of it and it makes more logic than your " this club is not run by oligarchs".!
Doesn't matter what you're trying to pretend.. I still have a better argument than you.. Even though your trying to pretend otherwise.
Talking about stooge presidents.. We also have stooge posters.
Ate you saying Kernahan is in charge because he's presidential material and the very best president we have on that board and when he leaves and we choose the next president from that group we therefore will be choosing the second brst president from that group .. not as good as sticks though because sticks is the best right now?
Love it!
You're a cracker!
Stop it! ##

Ive illustrated how the board is being stacked by appointees of the two familes.
You cant demonstrate shit!!!

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well the results are all there for the public to see....

Surely you're not advocating that recent carlton boards and the executive decisions made by Swann are first class?

For Carlton, the performance must be world standard - not some amateurish back water.

that's what we have become as a club - introverted, unimaginative, backward looking, and mediocre in standard setting and innovation..

Our club was different in the past - trend setters, innovators

we were envied for our approach to excellence etc

We have been laughed at for some time now

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Synbad,

You write great posts and some absolute tripe. I will give you a feel for what it is like to read your posts on this topic

"Kernahan (verbs, adjectives) oligarch losing control by a bunch of stooges but I support Fahour. Fahour is easily moved and only there because he is a customer of oligarchs when we were a people club and its all the fault of Pratt/Matheson because the acropolis is 450 years old when the past was better than the present and I will make it sticky for you and enter a battle. You answer these questions for the good of the people before all is lost as I can see all before me which you stooges can't"

Really rational debate

New NBL franchise for Melbourne announced today.

Hopefully Ruffy refocuses his efforts onto securing a hat trick of failed franchises rather than being a well dressed door stop at the next board meeting..

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And even the way you misinterpreted me makes more sense than what you have been putting on this thread.
Seriously.
Are you saying the club is not controlled by the oligarchies?
Well u don't think many people believe you.
Because your case is pretty lame.

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No the members control the club Mr S

EVERYBODY knows that we live in a democracy and that everybody is equal before the law and society

Havent you been to an AGM at the Carlton Football Club.

They even give out free pies and drinks afterwards - its amazing, some of the pies are even warm.

Over 2400 years ago, Poor old Socrates had to Hemlock Mr S......are you asking Sticks to do the same?

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[quote="Synbad"]How do you know it's a fabrication?
What part don't you believe and why?
Who is paying you? You seem to be in the pockets of Someone.pure
Reread what I said. It makes sense. Don't you worry... Most other people can make heads or 'tales'of it and it makes more logic than your " this club is not run by oligarchs".!
Doesn't matter what you're trying to pretend.. I still have a better argument than you.. Even though your trying to pretend otherwise.
Talking about stooge presidents.. We also have stooge posters.
Ate you saying Kernahan is in charge because he's presidential material and the very best president we have on that board and when he leaves and we choose the next president from that group we therefore will be choosing the second brst president from that group .. not as good as sticks though because sticks is the best right now?
Love it!
You're a cracker!
Stop it! ##

Ive illustrated how the board is being stacked by appointees of the two familes.
You cant demonstrate shit!!![/quote

You didn't answer questions you made up a story. I answered your questions with my first response to you that the families have influence but they don't rule the club. I said they have 3 votes, they got rolled on Fahour, they have minimal influence on recruiting or football matters but supported malthouse. Couldn't be more upfront than that. You retorted that they rule the club ignoring they make up less than 30% of the board and said they rule the club because 8 are incompetent. Well the merits of the other 8 are up for debate. However what is fact is people like you and me put them there. And by dint of the constitution have the power to get rid of them. So get off the couch and vote them
out instead of making up conspiracy theories. You are actually use weak intellect to mask your apathy. Synbad, with you it is always somebody else's fault because they have too much power, too much money and too much influence instead of taking a balanced view.

i didnt make up a story.... i am illustrating how the board has been stacked by two familes.
There is nothing about what i wrote that is a fabrication.... in fact you are finding difficulty proving that the club isnt ruled by two familes.. (also known as an Oligarchy) ruled by the few )

thats what were arguing isnt it?
that two familes have taken control of the club???

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there is no doubt that the Board is compromised by genetic lineage

What happens though, is when the club is shit, and we are perpetually underperforming, the spot light is placed on everyone. The board nepotism and other weaknesses become MASSIVE boils on the arsehole of our failures.

Remember when the Elliot boards were a shambles? They were able to hide that with grand final appearances in 93 and new signings like diesel, and JUST survived at the end of 94. The 1995 flag gave them lots of brownie points, as they placed the players on an untouchable mountain. A big mistake was made in 1996 and 1997, although the depth of class, and strong leadership culture enabled one more attempt at Mount Everest in 1999. But some long term damage was done in that period.

Then the pagan years finished off the job with short term success pressure and leadership culture dismantling. (Pagan did this sub consciously I suspect)

We need some innovative Board directors who may or not be carlton supporters - it doesn't matter if they are or not

Mr S. the seeds of our discontent were sewn some time ago....

And it will be the ultimate test of the Great malthouse...

Will he collapse in the excrement of history's lesson??

Only time will tell Mr S

only time will tell

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In any case swann will go, kernahan gone and can't see those you despise lasting much longer. If they are voted, leave or hand over it will prove my point and that synbad is a conspiracy theorist