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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:54 pm 
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1. Bruce Doull
2. Alex Jesaulenko
3. Greg Williams
4. Wayne Johnston
5. Steven Silvagni
6. Geoff Southby
7. Craig Bradley
8. Anthony Koutoufides
9. Brendan Fevola
10. Stephen Kernahan
11. Wayne Harmes

(Obviously big nick could slide in there, but I wasn't lucky enough to see him play. Players that were ahead of their time like Walls, Syd Jackson and Crosswell are also highly ranked.)


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:54 am 
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A very good topic Cretylus!

It goes without saying our individual lists depend on how old we are. I started barracking for Carlton because of Bruce Dull, but he was at the tail end of his career so doesn't make my list. Here goes:

1: Greg Williams
2: Steve Silvagni
3: Craig Bradley
4: Anthony Koutoufides
5: Peter Dean
6: Brett Ratten
7: Fev
8: Andrew McKay
9: Fraser Brown
10: harry Madden
11: Chris Judd

A shame I can't get more than one current player in there, and he's bottom of the list too.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:05 am 
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in no particular order...

G Southby
B Doull
R Austin
A Kouta
D Morrell
S Silvagni
G Williams
W Johnson
S Kernahan
C Bradley
G Williams

great topic!! bloody hard too

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:26 am 
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Haha lucky it's in no particular order. Digby should have been at least #3

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:35 am 
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Not in order

Kenny hunter
Wayne Johnston
Rod Ashman
Jimmy Buckley
Steve Kernahan
Steve Silvagni
Peter Bosostow
Brendan Fevola
Chris Judd
Greg Williams
Wayne Harmes

Apologies to Doull, Bradley, McClure, Kouta.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:45 am 
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If your talking about influence on particular games Kouta, Williams, Johnston, Crosswell & Bosustow played some of the most unbelievable games I have seen from any individual players. Motley could of easily been one of the greats. Gee he could play.

For how I rank them as greats of the club:

1. Doull
2. Jezza
3. Williams
4. Nicholls
5. Kernahan
6. SOS
7. Southby
8. Hunter
9. Bradley
10. Johnston
11. Ashman


My Grandfather who umpired in the VFL said Soapy Vallence was a Star but hard for me to judge.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:21 am 
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Molly wrote:
A very good topic Cretylus!

It goes without saying our individual lists depend on how old we are. I started barracking for Carlton because of Bruce Dull, but he was at the tail end of his career so doesn't make my list. Here goes:

1: Greg Williams
2: Steve Silvagni
3: Craig Bradley
4: Anthony Koutoufides
5: Peter Dean
6: Brett Ratten
7: Fev
8: Andrew McKay
9: Fraser Brown
10: harry Madden
11: Chris Judd

A shame I can't get more than one current player in there, and he's bottom of the list too.


Good to see madden there, a very underrated player that had longevity and was rarely beaten in the ruck.

Also peter dean just missed my top 11.

I have another list of carlton players who I would pick first, irrespective of talent etc and Dean is one of the first picked. I cannot recall Dean coming off the ground or at the end of a game without putting his heart, soul, blood, sweat and tears into the contest for his team mates and for the jumper. One of my all time favorites. Ratts is in a similar class.

Also couldn't fit hunter in, but Kenny is the bravest player I have seen - from any team

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:27 am 
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bender wrote:
in no particular order...

G Southby
B Doull
R Austin
A Kouta
D Morrell
S Silvagni
G Williams
W Johnson
S Kernahan
C Bradley
G Williams

great topic!! bloody hard too


I tossed and turned over Morrell for some time, but in the end he ended up being ranked 14th just behind simon Verbeek and Jamie Dunlop

Apologies to Rod Galt Ronny Delulio, Dominic Fotia and Ricky Mott

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:40 am 
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When we were really hopeless Cretylus, the player I would have picked first to come out of retirement and show the team the way would have been Peter Dean. He'd have taught those blokes all they needed to know about pride in the jumper.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:50 am 
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Molly wrote:
When we were really hopeless Cretylus, the player I would have picked first to come out of retirement and show the team the way would have been Peter Dean. He'd have taught those blokes all they needed to know about pride in the jumper.


I Can't disagree with that comment.

Super carlton person, who probably slept with his footy jumper on

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Not in any order but off the top of my head:
Kouta
SOS
Dominator
Sticks
Diesel
Bradley
Peter Dean
Mike Fitzpatrick
Harmes
Hunter
Fraser Brown (just for THAT tackle)

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I started watching Carlton in 1982 and didn't see Doull in his prime-

Sticks
Diesel
Bradley
Johnston
Kouta
Ratten
SOS
Andy McKay
Judd
Madden
Fev

At his best, Kouta would be #1 but he slides because he wasn't as consistent as some others and injury cut him down in his prime. Fev was top 5 on talent but he was more or less a one position player and his best and worst were miles apart. I didn't truly appreciate how good Madden was until later, but if you watch old games from the mid 80s-90s he was dominate.

Apologies to a few from the '95 team, particularly Dean, Sexton & Brown. Hopefully Murph, Gibbs & Kreuzer will make it onto the list before the end of their careers...

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:37 am 
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Out of interest has Parko ever listed the best players he coached? Obviously he'd have some Hawks in there, but you'd reckon the majority would be Bluebaggers. And given he coached us when we had our act together, I think it would be fascinating to see how it stacks up with the lists we've put together here.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:38 pm 
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In no particualr order,

Ken Hunter
Greg Williams
Kouta
Bruce Doull
Jezza
Geoff Southby
Kernahan
Bradley
Judd
Wayne Johnston
Peter Bosustow (lighting in a bottle)

Actually scratch the Buzz for SOS.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:44 pm 
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Molly wrote:
Out of interest has Parko ever listed the best players he coached? Obviously he'd have some Hawks in there, but you'd reckon the majority would be Bluebaggers. And given he coached us when we had our act together, I think it would be fascinating to see how it stacks up with the lists we've put together here.


I know that Parko rates the dominator very highly due to his performances in finals and big games.

I suspect parko is like many other coaches and looks at how players perform under pressure in big games and finals etc.

I recall getting Barrassi's top 31 players and he had Matthews at number 1 and Big Nick at number 2, but nominated Big Nick as best captain.

These lists are very subjective from a fan point of view because we don't know what is happening behind the scenes and what roles the players are given and what adversity the players are performing under.

My list of carlton players that are brave and team orientated is slightly different

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Been watching the Blues since 1965 and in no particular order.

Big Nick
Kenny Hunter
Diesel Williams
Kouta
Doully
Jezza
Geoff Southby
Sticks Kernahan
Braddles
Juddy
SOS
Ashman

Yeah I know I have 12 but wasn't going to leave Rod Ashman out. Very underrated rated rover and almost won the Brownlow one year. Best of our famous mosquito fleet. IMHO.

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Teddy Hopkins wrote:
Been watching the Blues since 1965 and in no particular order.

Big Nick
Kenny Hunter
Diesel Williams
Kouta
Doully
Jezza
Geoff Southby
Sticks Kernahan
Braddles
Juddy
SOS
Ashman

Yeah I know I have 12 but wasn't going to leave Rod Ashman out. Very underrated rated rover and almost won the Brownlow one year. Best of our famous mosquito fleet. IMHO.


Love the Kenny Hunter nomination at number 2 - the bravest player I have seen play for any team. His acts on the field were bordering on sheer stupidity - surprised he wasn't killed on the field.

Ashman was one the greatest rovers the game has seen. Natural and almost kicked 400 goals which is an astonishing feat/ Could kick on both sides and tackled like a bulldog.

Surprised you couldn't fit Teddy in

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:22 pm 
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I have been going since the mid 1970's so in no particular order;

Wayne Johnston
Bruce Doull
Ken Hunter
Geoff Southby
Chris Judd
Greg Williams
Jezza
Steve Kernahan
SOS
Fev
Bradley


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Good topic

Doull
Kernahan
Johnston
SOS
Hunter
Kouta
Bradley
Diesel
Dean
Fitzpatrick
Madden


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Cretylus wrote:
bender wrote:
in no particular order...

G Southby
B Doull
R Austin
A Kouta
D Morrell
S Silvagni
G Williams
W Johnson
S Kernahan
C Bradley
G Williams

great topic!! bloody hard too


I tossed and turned over Morrell for some time, but in the end he ended up being ranked 14th just behind simon Verbeek and Jamie Dunlop

Apologies to Rod Galt Ronny Delulio, Dominic Fotia and Ricky Mott


Ronny was no champion but did play 104 games ... a bit harsh to group him with Fotia and Mott IMHO.


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