oh and there used to be a time everybody was chasing talls and kpp was the cherry pie

the game is played on the ground now... and noone has kicked 100 goals since buddy

the little guys are kicking more.. and yoiur midfield has to be kicking goals too... (judd cough cough)

defensive pressure and endurance as well as skills and creativity are what everybody is looking for.


key position players???... just a dying breed except the extraordinary ones....

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On what basis is our midfield c grade?

As I said in the previous post, there is no reason why you can't target a tall with the first pick and then go mids with the rest.

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..you still need some quality KPP, sure most teams are targeting mids, but they have better kpp stocks than we do.. ..the last team to have truely c-grade kpp stocks [at that time] to win a flag was WC.. ..and the flag they won, they did so by the smallest of margins.. ..better kpps and they could have won two in their time.. ..some point more recently to cats and say mooney was avg.. ..maybe so, but scarlett sure wasnt.. ...and thats the thing, its not just kpfs, but kpds as well.. ..collectively our kpp stocks have hendo as proven quality, and ??s over everyone else..

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Playing with a small forward line full of small's has worked.......let's keep it up.

Indeed.

The thing is a good KP forward isn't just there to kick goals but also they engage a dominant key back like Lake - when Lake is playing against a mediocre tall forward he pays them no respect and just picks off the long kicks that come in...when you have at least a good tall forward Lake then has to actually defend. Your forward line then functions a lot better.

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so i asked u surrey... whos there for pick 13 that u want ...

answer..

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Too logical but don't get to worked up Effes. The orical has spoken!

so mitchell comes in for lake???

well mediocre talls are most talls... thats why i hate burning picks on speculative talls like mitchell , mitchell, roewe et al

id rather keep taking mids and cherry pick sam reid or something at trade time.. unless were aiming at a flag this year with mitchell our daily driver at chf/ ff

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..Reid if swan variety yet to show real talent up fwd, too costly to buy in quality talls, we need more than one and buying talent keeps our tpp unbalanced..

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Garlett is one of my choices , good skills, exciting with pace . Not too small , he's ready to go.
Acres, Lennon , Freeman are the others

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Don't worry.
Reid is the right tall going forward
Can mark
Can chase
Can play at ground level
Not a great kick but not many talls are better.


Surrey you didn't answer the question.

Who ?

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Best mid at 13 and look at Conlon and Thorpe with 39 or 51. Not sure if either are worth 39 but if there isn't much better it could be worth consideration.

..is ok mark on the lead, not so crash contested.. ..has good work ethic, but i think he's a better defender.. ..doesn't have creative enough running patterns, which you need on small scg.... ..i think he's a little hyped.. ..Hendo is far better in my opinion.. ..so is darling.. ..and walker.. ..and cameron.. ..there's a few i reckon..

..GWS are building up a team from scratch, they're stock-piling their kpps.... ..cos you never know which ones develop the best [or faster], and they go 'high' on the market if you have too many.. ..they can also command the most on a tpp so drafting them can work in your favour by building a team 'share' culture.. ..i agree that it's very chancey with later picks, which is what happens when you ignore them for too long and then just pick and hope, as we do..

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..that being said, early 3rd rounder on Giles.... ..what are ppl's thoughts?, is he a 'spec' type with project written over him, or is he something more viable..?..

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No idea but he looks @#$%&! amazing on youtube. 195cm but runs like the wind and streams forward at every opportunity. I haven't been this excited by a pick in years.

So that's
OUT: Betts, Hampson and some deadwood
IN: Dale Thomas, promising 20 year half back /mid, Everitt, big bodied mid, dashing KP back, and hard at it mid.

Pick up a Thorpe in the Rookie draft and on paper it looks like pretty darn good business.

We have picked up footballers. Natural footballers with Cripps & Holman. Happy with that.Lets hope the kids now develop to take over in 2 or 3 years time. Like the fact we have also added a KP that can play at both ends!!!! Now if we can get a Conlon or maybe a Tippett in the rookie draft, we might have come away with a win or 2.

Interestingly, despite what you sometimes hear, key position players were in fairly high demand tonight (again). A number of them went earlier than expected. It seems many other clubs understand that they're much harder to find and structurally vital so you have to pay a premium price for them.

Perhaps this is one area where as a club we're innovating rather than following the crowd.

Nonetheless, like the look of Giles (although you obviously can't tell much from a 3 minute highlight clip). At least he's got the size and athleticism to play key position at AFL level. Also like that he goes for his marks, even when playing in defence (a little Brian Lake-ish). Given that we don't seem to be willing to invest early picks in key position players, we've probably made the right choice to target a key position defender. Much greater chance of picking one up in the 3rd round that will make it at AFL level, than a key position forward.

Looks like we're finally going to see Hendo as a long-term forward option.

Giles was a forward first. Maybe he can play either end. Sound familiar?

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Agree - Cripps and Giles also have some size about them ( both plus 90kgs)