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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:20 am 
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I've never pretended to know much about these kids so have refrained from commenting on them. However as a general principle, nothing could excite me less than a slow midfielder at #13.

I'm not hung up on mid vs KPP, our list is swiss cheese at the moment so any selection is going to fill a hole. But a slow inside mid? It seems to me to be one place where we are covered.

Outside run with decent skills? We may have one of those, if his ankle holds up....



..our list has the runners, it's more an issue of hard running and work ethic across the team, vs some exhausting themselves and others choosing how much effort they give.. .... ..but in regards to outside run, it is there..

..i don't mind a mid with avg pace, provided he has a quick mind and good awareness/vision.. ..inside the stoppage, this is what makes them quicker, vs breakaway pace which is easier to stifle, but fast mind/disposal is much harder to control..

..i just think who-ever we pick, for the next 5 years with our 1st pick really needs to be a kpp or a pure mid.. ..this 'almost' ought to be a hard and fast criteria for us..

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:25 am 
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punter 22 yeah we have one who is going to be 27 next yr.I want an 18 yr old that gives our middys outside run with pace.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:54 am 
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punter 22 yeah we have one who is going to be 27 next yr.I want an 18 yr old that gives our middys outside run with pace.


Compared to our key forward who is 31 next season and can't get on the park……..

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:18 am 
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I'm with you on this BV. KP should be priority, if available at any of our picks.
But then there are smarter men than me in here, so what do I know. :razz:


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:54 am 
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Cripps at 13 would be cheaper than what we paid for Brock .....

Just sayin !


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:30 pm 
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Cripps at 13 would be cheaper than what we paid for Brock .....

Just sayin !

Hopefully he gets a clear run at it and turns out just as good...............and is quicker than a glacier

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:08 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
I'm with you on this BV. KP should be priority, if available at any of our picks.
But then there are smarter men than me in here, so what do I know. :razz:

yes there are...... and i dunno.....

just to prove my point surrey(as if i have to.. but i love it!!)... which key position player should we take with our pick 13????

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:12 pm 
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Kouta wrote:
TC never fails to impress.

are u the guy that said we were drafting amazingly etc???

thought so....

the good thing is.... u learnt to keep your failed opinions to yourself....

thats a start!!!...

but u do have a go from the sidelines without much conviction.....

not sure which side i giggle at more...... the sycophant or the cowardly

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:13 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
I'm with you on this BV. KP should be priority, if available at any of our picks.
But then there are smarter men than me in here, so what do I know. :razz:

yes there are...... and i dunno.....

just to prove my point surrey(as if i have to.. but i love it!!)... which key position player should we take with our pick 13????


I know you asked Surrey but why isn't McCarthy a worthy option for that pick, especially given the key position player crisis at Carlton.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:39 pm 
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Effes wrote:
Synbad wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
I'm with you on this BV. KP should be priority, if available at any of our picks.
But then there are smarter men than me in here, so what do I know. :razz:

yes there are...... and i dunno.....

just to prove my point surrey(as if i have to.. but i love it!!)... which key position player should we take with our pick 13????


I know you asked Surrey but why isn't McCarthy a worthy option for that pick, especially given the key position player crisis at Carlton.



Just because he's the best KPP available doesn't necessarily make him worthy of 13

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:40 pm 
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Effes wrote:
Synbad wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
I'm with you on this BV. KP should be priority, if available at any of our picks.
But then there are smarter men than me in here, so what do I know. :razz:

yes there are...... and i dunno.....

just to prove my point surrey(as if i have to.. but i love it!!)... which key position player should we take with our pick 13????


I know you asked Surrey but why isn't McCarthy a worthy option for that pick, especially given the key position player crisis at Carlton.

yes

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:42 pm 
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Navy Blue Horse wrote:
Effes wrote:
Synbad wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
I'm with you on this BV. KP should be priority, if available at any of our picks.
But then there are smarter men than me in here, so what do I know. :razz:

yes there are...... and i dunno.....

just to prove my point surrey(as if i have to.. but i love it!!)... which key position player should we take with our pick 13????


I know you asked Surrey but why isn't McCarthy a worthy option for that pick, especially given the key position player crisis at Carlton.



Just because he's the best KPP available doesn't necessarily make him worthy of 13

yes too

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:45 pm 
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Effes wrote:
Synbad wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
I'm with you on this BV. KP should be priority, if available at any of our picks.
But then there are smarter men than me in here, so what do I know. :razz:

yes there are...... and i dunno.....

just to prove my point surrey(as if i have to.. but i love it!!)... which key position player should we take with our pick 13????


I know you asked Surrey but why isn't McCarthy a worthy option for that pick, especially given the key position player crisis at Carlton.


I also believe we have a midfield crisis. List them all and there are not too many that would get a game in another side.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:46 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Effes wrote:
Synbad wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
I'm with you on this BV. KP should be priority, if available at any of our picks.
But then there are smarter men than me in here, so what do I know. :razz:

yes there are...... and i dunno.....

just to prove my point surrey(as if i have to.. but i love it!!)... which key position player should we take with our pick 13????


I know you asked Surrey but why isn't McCarthy a worthy option for that pick, especially given the key position player crisis at Carlton.

yes



That in no way answers the question posed.. :lol:

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Navy Blue Horse wrote:
Effes wrote:
Synbad wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
I'm with you on this BV. KP should be priority, if available at any of our picks.
But then there are smarter men than me in here, so what do I know. :razz:

yes there are...... and i dunno.....

just to prove my point surrey(as if i have to.. but i love it!!)... which key position player should we take with our pick 13????


I know you asked Surrey but why isn't McCarthy a worthy option for that pick, especially given the key position player crisis at Carlton.



Just because he's the best KPP available doesn't necessarily make him worthy of 13


Of course it doesn't but it seems the focus is just on midfielders when it is clear there is a key position player crisis at the club.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:52 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
I'm with you on this BV. KP should be priority, if available at any of our picks.
But then there are smarter men than me in here, so what do I know. :razz:

yes there are...... and i dunno.....

just to prove my point surrey(as if i have to.. but i love it!!)... which key position player should we take with our pick 13????

Tom Boyd. :P

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 2:03 pm 
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Effes wrote:
Navy Blue Horse wrote:
Effes wrote:
Synbad wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
I'm with you on this BV. KP should be priority, if available at any of our picks.
But then there are smarter men than me in here, so what do I know. :razz:

yes there are...... and i dunno.....

just to prove my point surrey(as if i have to.. but i love it!!)... which key position player should we take with our pick 13????


I know you asked Surrey but why isn't McCarthy a worthy option for that pick, especially given the key position player crisis at Carlton.



Just because he's the best KPP available doesn't necessarily make him worthy of 13


Of course it doesn't but it seems the focus is just on midfielders when it is clear there is a key position player crisis at the club.

youre not going to fix a midfield crisis by taking a tall at 13 whos unworthy.... shades of watson.

build your cake first.... then u can cherry pick your cherries if needed....

our midfield is made up of an aging bunch of guys supplemented by a bunch of rookies... lol

then 3 early picks at mid age stage of their footy... one we just gave up 700k to get....

but we do know.... that unless u win the midfield your talls have no hope in hell...!!!

so fix your midfield first (ie cake) and then worry about the rest..

most clubs do this now.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 2:15 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
youre not going to fix a midfield crisis by taking a tall at 13 whos unworthy.... shades of watson.

build your cake first.... then u can cherry pick your cherries if needed....

our midfield is made up of an aging bunch of guys supplemented by a bunch of rookies... lol

then 3 early picks at mid age stage of their footy... one we just gave up 700k to get....

but we do know.... that unless u win the midfield your talls have no hope in hell...!!!

so fix your midfield first (ie cake) and then worry about the rest..

most clubs do this now.


Why is McCarthy not worthy?

Our key position stocks are made up of Henderson and a bunch of rookies/flakes/late ND picks. Waite almost cooked. Casboult can't kick. Rowe mediocre to date. Watson inexperienced/lacking mobility. Jamison shoulder issues.

There is no reason why a tall couldn't be targeted with the first pick and then mids with the rest. It is clear the later you go with your KP picks the more likely it is they won't make it. You can't keep avoiding the talls issue.

The staggering thing is the last time the club drafted a tall with a pre 15 pick in the draft was Mr Kennedy back in 05!

It is clear quality mids can be acquired more easily with later picks, unlike KP.

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Use free agency to lure a decent KP.
Use the draft to stock up on skilled mids


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 2:29 pm 
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Effes wrote:
Synbad wrote:
youre not going to fix a midfield crisis by taking a tall at 13 whos unworthy.... shades of watson.

build your cake first.... then u can cherry pick your cherries if needed....

our midfield is made up of an aging bunch of guys supplemented by a bunch of rookies... lol

then 3 early picks at mid age stage of their footy... one we just gave up 700k to get....

but we do know.... that unless u win the midfield your talls have no hope in hell...!!!

so fix your midfield first (ie cake) and then worry about the rest..

most clubs do this now.


Why is McCarthy not worthy?

Our key position stocks are made up of Henderson and a bunch of rookies/flakes/late ND picks. Waite almost cooked. Casboult can't kick. Rowe mediocre to date. Watson inexperienced/lacking mobility. Jamison shoulder issues.

There is no reason why a tall couldn't be targeted with the first pick and then mids with the rest. It is clear the later you go with your KP picks the more likely it is they won't make it. You can't keep avoiding the talls issue.

The staggering thing is the last time the club drafted a tall with a pre 15 pick in the draft was Mr Kennedy back in 05!

It is clear quality mids can be acquired more easily with later picks, unlike KP.



i dunno how much u r understading about the game evolution but id rather have a c grade kp area than a c grade midfield...


its no surprise everyones picking up mids.. unless the talls are exceptional '(with early picks...

no surprise to me anyway.....


so yeah youre left with talls if u want them..... do you want them enough??.... snag them!!! :lol:

thats all!!!!

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