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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:01 pm 
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The Rhino wrote:
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Yeah, geez, Kolodashnij is right there! We could get the....y'know....the....that demographic.


Uzbekistanian gypsy


Untapped potential.


Once Uzbekistan Airways joins an alliance and starts a three-day a week direct service from Melbourne to Tashkent, the world is our oyster.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:05 pm 
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I'd recruit Christian Salem. Reason why......

Christian Salem has a Lebanese background and with Carlton having a massive middle eastern following in the north north/western suburbs of Melbourne I think he would be a great marketing tool to reach out to the middle eastern supporters out there and drag them along to games.

He could be somewhat of cult hero amongst his community and they would come in massive numbers to follow one of their own. It could drive up membership sales and attendances.

And the kid can play.


I'd recruit Luke Reynolds. Reason why......

Luke Reynolds has an Australian background and with Carlton having a massive Anglo-saxon following in the suburbs of Melbourne I think he would be a great marketing tool to reach out to the anglo supporters out there and drag them along to games.

He could be somewhat of cult hero amongst his community and they would come in massive numbers to follow one of their own. It could drive up membership sales and attendances.

And the kid can play.


Almost half of Carlton supporters have a European and Middle eastern background. More than other club. Collingwood is second.

The problem Carlton have a large number of middle eastern followers but for some reason these followers do not buy memberships. This is where we can catch up to other big clubs where you see us lagging behind in membership number's. Research shows most of these 'followers' are out in the north west suburbs and of second generation middle eastern families.

This helped form the Northern Bullants alliance. A player like Salem will bring these supporters out in numbers. He Will help the club connect with the middle eastern community and it should translate into more memberships and higher attendances.

hang on a second, what is your source regarding Carlton supporters backgrounds? Is the half that you're talking about 45% Euro and 5% Middle Eastern? We had a player named Mil Hannah a while back, you may have heard of him. Did our middle eastern supporters sign up when he played?

ridiculous! Lol
give me the synopsis of the membership break down of the time and we can answer.
you answer your own question with some data.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:13 pm 
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Not a chance Salem will be there at pick 13, will not
make it pass 10.
Reckon we will have a choice between,
Lewis, sheed or McCarthy, big decision to be made
if McCarthy is available...
McCarthy or the next best mid???


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:34 pm 
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blueboy23 wrote:
Not a chance Salem will be there at pick 13, will not
make it pass 10.
Reckon we will have a choice between,
Lewis, sheed or McCarthy, big decision to be made
if McCarthy is available...
McCarthy or the next best mid???


I'd like the next best mid at 13.

Not sure if Conlon is worth pick 39 but I would be tempted. Is 39 to much of a gamble?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:36 pm 
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Rabbit wrote:
blueboy23 wrote:
Not a chance Salem will be there at pick 13, will not
make it pass 10.
Reckon we will have a choice between,
Lewis, sheed or McCarthy, big decision to be made
if McCarthy is available...
McCarthy or the next best mid???


I'd like the next best mid at 13.

Not sure if Conlon is worth pick 39 but I would be tempted. Is 39 to much of a gamble?


I think Doc and BKB mentioned him a while ago. Here is the link to the write up today.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-11-16/d ... of-mystery


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:37 pm 
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Rabbit wrote:
blueboy23 wrote:
Not a chance Salem will be there at pick 13, will not
make it pass 10.
Reckon we will have a choice between,
Lewis, sheed or McCarthy, big decision to be made
if McCarthy is available...
McCarthy or the next best mid???


I'd like the next best mid at 13.

Not sure if Conlon is worth pick 39 but I would be tempted. Is 39 to much of a gamble?


And I'd like McCarthy. Also wouldn't mind a gamble on Conlon as well. If you don't give up good picks on key position players, you end up with one of the weakest collection of key position players on your list. And that's where we are now. And it's only going to get worse when Waite finally hangs up the boots.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:56 am 
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Rabbit wrote:
Rabbit wrote:
blueboy23 wrote:
Not a chance Salem will be there at pick 13, will not
make it pass 10.
Reckon we will have a choice between,
Lewis, sheed or McCarthy, big decision to be made
if McCarthy is available...
McCarthy or the next best mid???


I'd like the next best mid at 13.

Not sure if Conlon is worth pick 39 but I would be tempted. Is 39 to much of a gamble?


I think Doc and BKB mentioned him a while ago. Here is the link to the write up today.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-11-16/d ... of-mystery


..i haven't mentioned Conlon.. ..i was thinking perhaps a very late rounder, or most likely a rookie go for W.A ruck project Scott Jones.. ..204cm 100kg lump of a lad.. .... ..have seen Conlon mentioned here but know sweet F.A about him [and others]..

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:41 pm 
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It has to be a MIDD but one with pace .


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:30 pm 
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Get Conlon!

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:00 pm 
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Conlon will go early second round, doubt he will
make it to our pick (39)..
I still like hourigan as an option, 192cm 92kg..
Great mark great kick and excellent at ground level,
just needs to work on he's endurance, that will come
after a year or two with butters....
Pick 13, freeman/sheed/Lewis (mid)
Pick 39, hourigan (key forward)
Pick 51, Holman/lang/Sicily (mid)
Rookies, thorp/Tippett/fort/Cain/heppell (talls and mids)
Hope we land a tall somewhere in the draft, because as
we are all aware, our tall stocks are very limited, both ends..


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:52 am 
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cimm1979 wrote:
Synbad wrote:
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Any chance of stealing the recruiters of Sydney/Geelong/Hawthorn?


We got the 2IC from the Cats just the other day.

Hope he helps.

no such thing as a 2 IC not on a contract and can defect half way through a season.....not from a club like Geelong.



http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2013-0 ... -bolstered

The Carlton Football Club has strengthened its recruiting operations with the appointment of Luke Williams as Recruiting Manager.

Williams, the long-serving 2IC to Geelong’s Recruiting and List Manager Stephen Wells, joins Wayne Hughes and the recently-appointed Michael Jordan on a revamped recruiting line-up headed by National Recruiting Manager Shane Rogers.


He started a few weeks ago didn't he?



Less than 6 months later........................................that went well! :banghead:

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:01 pm 
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Brett Anderson's mock draft is on the SEN website.
He has us as taking;
Cripps, Nick Robertson, Mitch Thorp.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:30 pm 
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kezza wrote:
Brett Anderson's mock draft is on the SEN website.
He has us as taking;
Cripps, Nick Robertson, Mitch Thorp.


Sheesh I hope not! Cripps is not a player I want at 13, not when he has Taylor, Zak Jones, Dunstan, Acres or even McCarthy (another I don't want at 13) still available.

As for pick 39, he has Nankervis, Marsh & Battersby as the next 3 picked, amongst a number of guys still on the table that I'd have before Robertson.

And at 51 I'd be wary of Thorpe, rather look at Ben Brown or Nick Holman who he has in the next 4 picks, again amongst a number of guys still on the table that I'd have before Thorpe.

Anyway, this draft is a real lottery once you get to our 2nd and later picks, even at 13 the scenario is far from certain.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:34 pm 
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Quayle has us taking Cripps too.

Herald Sun boys tweeting it too.


Afl website has a whole article about it.


Might have to start coming to grips with taking Cripps with 13 :(


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:50 am 
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Difference between cripps and freeman is the kicking
side of things..
Freeman has pace whilst cripps has the kicking and
decision making..
Cripps is like David Mundy, freeman is like Shaun atley,
Atley bit better kicking..
Think with thorp, he is a ready made forward who can have
an impact straight away.
Cripps, thorp and maybe Sicily/Holman/lang would be a
good out come..
7-30 tonight will find out, can't wait


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:55 am 
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Cripps sounds like he is the player who will 'slip' to us this year
Usullay when you think about slipping its from what should have been a higher pick to a lower pick...but in our case usually its the other way around;

Good luck!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:25 am 
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Synbad wrote:
Cripps sounds like he is the player who will 'slip' to us this year
Usullay when you think about slipping its from what should have been a higher pick to a lower pick...but in our case usually its the other way around;

Good luck!!!


..lucas and menz 'slipped/slid' down the order to our pick.. ..seems Cripps is bolting up the order to our pick.. ..not sure why cripps over dunstan, both are ready made, perhaps dunstan even more'so..

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:15 am 
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Hope this is not going to be another Lucas/talia
Selection, or a Watson/darling one also..
One can only make so many wrong decisions at
the work place, before the boss (club) lets them
go, could be make or break if the wrong selection
is made again!!!!
Is the cripps decision made on the fact that Geelong
would pick him up if he gets through???
The cats want him, best we get him first...
Time will tell, and I am no expert, so I hope the so
called experts make the right decision for our club...


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:18 am 
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I've never pretended to know much about these kids so have refrained from commenting on them. However as a general principle, nothing could excite me less than a slow midfielder at #13.

I'm not hung up on mid vs KPP, our list is swiss cheese at the moment so any selection is going to fill a hole. But a slow inside mid? It seems to me to be one place where we are covered.

Outside run with decent skills? We may have one of those, if his ankle holds up....


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