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cimm1979 · **Posted:** Sat Oct 12, 2013 5:43 pm

bluepill wrote:

Docherty deal done ..officially a blue ! paperwork to be done first thing Monday morning

source

Warby · **Posted:** Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:02 pm

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/c ... 6738560266

cimm1979 · **Posted:** Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:05 pm

Warby wrote:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-set-to-secure-brisbane-young-gun-sam-docherty/story-fn69a32t-1226738560266

That's far from "officially a Blue" as bluepill states.

Warby · **Posted:** Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:07 pm

cimm1979 wrote:

Warby wrote:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-set-to-secure-brisbane-young-gun-sam-docherty/story-fn69a32t-1226738560266

That's far from "officially a Blue" as bluepill states.

True.....it states next Monday.

Navy Blue Horse · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:39 pm **Posts:** 15848

It's official as it can be without the official paper work being lodged.....so therefore unofficial

BigKev · **Posted:** Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:22 pm

Warby wrote:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-set-to-secure-brisbane-young-gun-sam-docherty/story-fn69a32t-1226738560266

Yes Docherty.
No Chapman.
No Shaw.

Hope it's right.

Braithy · **Joined:** Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:42 pm **Posts:** 7210

Chapman on a cheap deal woulda been okay, but can't complain. Hopefully Docherty is a gun. Can't remember too much of him, tbh. Hard running with heart is what I hope for.

bluepill · **Joined:** Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:06 pm **Posts:** 12

Chapman is going to Essendon* ..GWS doesn't wanna trade their pick 1 anymore .. No Boyd

We desperately need a key position forward .. ..maybe Tomlinson

camel · **Posted:** Sat Oct 12, 2013 9:42 pm

Navy Blue Horse wrote:

aramari wrote:

Docherty for Hampson sounds like a win for us, but then, I'd never heard of Docherty a month ago...

Nor had I. Trust me, he's a gun.

idle · **Joined:** Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:48 pm **Posts:** 939

If all we end up with at the end of this trade period is a guy with suspect ankles and an unknown kid from Brisbane, I will be sorely disappointed. Considering all the talk about how "aggressive" we were going to be this trade period, I was expecting something special. At the very least a gun forward. With Betts now history and stats of 2011 = 50 goals. 2012 = 48 goals and 2013 = 27 goals (broken jaw) a potential 50 goals a season player gone elsewhere is quite a hole to fill.

Docherty a defensive player, when our defense was probably the best thing to come out of 2013, go figure ...

Daisy is a gamble at best with no guarantees. A great pickup IF he's injuries prove to be nothing serious and long term AND he can regain the form he's known for.

And that's it? That's all we've got to show for our "aggressive" 2013 trade period?

I do hope there's a deal going on somewhere for someone we can get excited about.

Synbad · **Posted:** Sun Oct 13, 2013 12:03 am

idle wrote:

If all we end up with at the end of this trade period is a guy with suspect ankles and an unknown kid from Brisbane, I will be sorely disappointed. Considering all the talk about how "aggressive" we were going to be this trade period, I was expecting something special. At the very least a gun forward. With Betts now history and stats of 2011 = 50 goals. 2012 = 48 goals and 2013 = 27 goals (broken jaw) a potential 50 goals a season player gone elsewhere is quite a hole to fill.

Docherty a defensive player, when our defense was probably the best thing to come out of 2013, go figure ...

Daisy is a gamble at best with no guarantees. A great pickup IF he's injuries prove to be nothing serious and long term AND he can regain the form he's known for.

And that's it? That's all we've got to show for our "aggressive" 2013 trade period?

I do hope there's a deal going on somewhere for someone we can get excited about.

No currency
No salary cap space
Just a beautifully crafted list and list management
Who did you want for what ?

I said weeks ago. Eddie had to go for space Lol
Ridiculous! Gambled losing our best forward in the hope we can get Garlett to step up so we can get one premium.

The others were always going to be b and c graders.

Psych owes me an apology...
He slagged me off for suggesting exactly that.

TruBlueBrad · **Posted:** Sun Oct 13, 2013 6:46 am

I don't think trading Bootsma, Watson, Robinson, Lucas would free up much salary cap space. They surely can't be on that much and you still have to replace them, with a 2 year contract, which means we could be looking at a situation where we have a limited number of players to de-list again next year.

To free up cap space you have to let Scotland retire and move some guys who are on bigger contracts. I don't know who that is, but its potentially guys in the 23+ age range. Walker, Garlett, Waite? Surely we're not over paying Murphy, Gibbs, Kreuzer, Jamison, Simpson. We recently signed Henderson to a reasonable contract.

With most players on 2 year contracts, 3 at the most (apart from Thomas), its something that should be fixable by the end of next season....if true.

doofdoof · **Joined:** Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:54 pm **Posts:** 2251

Synbad wrote:

idle wrote:

If all we end up with at the end of this trade period is a guy with suspect ankles and an unknown kid from Brisbane, I will be sorely disappointed. Considering all the talk about how "aggressive" we were going to be this trade period, I was expecting something special. At the very least a gun forward. With Betts now history and stats of 2011 = 50 goals. 2012 = 48 goals and 2013 = 27 goals (broken jaw) a potential 50 goals a season player gone elsewhere is quite a hole to fill.

Docherty a defensive player, when our defense was probably the best thing to come out of 2013, go figure ...

Daisy is a gamble at best with no guarantees. A great pickup IF he's injuries prove to be nothing serious and long term AND he can regain the form he's known for.

And that's it? That's all we've got to show for our "aggressive" 2013 trade period?

I do hope there's a deal going on somewhere for someone we can get excited about.

No currency
No salary cap space
Just a beautifully crafted list and list management
Who did you want for what ?

I said weeks ago. Eddie had to go for space Lol
Ridiculous! Gambled losing our best forward in the hope we can get Garlett to step up so we can get one premium.

The others were always going to be b and c graders.

Psych owes me an apology...
He slagged me off for suggesting exactly that.

So you were happy to pay Eddie the reported 2 mil over 4 years?

blueboys101 · **Joined:** Sat Apr 09, 2005 5:29 pm **Posts:** 327

agree paying 2mil for betts was never a good idea so cya later and getting Thomas and Docherty gives us more flexibility, if Thomas ankle is right and Docherty slots in nicely which I think will happen it creates more depth in our midfield and frees someone up from the backline.
also I wanted us to have a few picks in the draft so keeping our first and 1 second rounder is a plus for me.
getting a tall forward is not easy, u either get a gumbleton or a pods or u trade gibbs and ur first rounder for boyd and going by this thread u cant win.

kezza · **Joined:** Thu May 11, 2006 6:11 pm **Posts:** 15003

Synbad wrote:

idle wrote:

If all we end up with at the end of this trade period is a guy with suspect ankles and an unknown kid from Brisbane, I will be sorely disappointed. Considering all the talk about how "aggressive" we were going to be this trade period, I was expecting something special. At the very least a gun forward. With Betts now history and stats of 2011 = 50 goals. 2012 = 48 goals and 2013 = 27 goals (broken jaw) a potential 50 goals a season player gone elsewhere is quite a hole to fill.

Docherty a defensive player, when our defense was probably the best thing to come out of 2013, go figure ...

Daisy is a gamble at best with no guarantees. A great pickup IF he's injuries prove to be nothing serious and long term AND he can regain the form he's known for.

And that's it? That's all we've got to show for our "aggressive" 2013 trade period?

I do hope there's a deal going on somewhere for someone we can get excited about.

No currency
No salary cap space

Just a beautifully crafted list and list management
Who did you want for what ?

I said weeks ago. Eddie had to go for space Lol
Ridiculous! Gambled losing our best forward in the hope we can get Garlett to step up so we can get one premium.

The others were always going to be b and c graders.

Psych owes me an apology...
He slagged me off for suggesting exactly that.

It is hard to believe we have little room in our salary cap, poor management.
There is an article on the AFL website about Hawthorn being ready to swoop as it has about one million dollars spare in its cap after Franklin left. It mentions them using it next year to snare a free agent, Gibbs name was brought up.
The premiers have room but we dont, what a joke.

Synbad · **Posted:** Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:19 am

kezza wrote:

Synbad wrote:

idle wrote:

If all we end up with at the end of this trade period is a guy with suspect ankles and an unknown kid from Brisbane, I will be sorely disappointed. Considering all the talk about how "aggressive" we were going to be this trade period, I was expecting something special. At the very least a gun forward. With Betts now history and stats of 2011 = 50 goals. 2012 = 48 goals and 2013 = 27 goals (broken jaw) a potential 50 goals a season player gone elsewhere is quite a hole to fill.

Docherty a defensive player, when our defense was probably the best thing to come out of 2013, go figure ...

Daisy is a gamble at best with no guarantees. A great pickup IF he's injuries prove to be nothing serious and long term AND he can regain the form he's known for.

And that's it? That's all we've got to show for our "aggressive" 2013 trade period?

I do hope there's a deal going on somewhere for someone we can get excited about.

No currency
No salary cap space

Just a beautifully crafted list and list management
Who did you want for what ?

I said weeks ago. Eddie had to go for space Lol
Ridiculous! Gambled losing our best forward in the hope we can get Garlett to step up so we can get one premium.

The others were always going to be b and c graders.

Psych owes me an apology...
He slagged me off for suggesting exactly that.

It is hard to believe we have little room in our salary cap, poor management.
There is an article on the AFL website about Hawthorn being ready to swoop as it has about one million dollars spare in its cap after Franklin left. It mentions them using it next year to snare a free agent, Gibbs name was brought up.
The premiers have room but we dont, what a joke.

much more thoughtful considered post than food doof accusing my post as me wanting to pay betts.
clearly a dart that misses the board.
sometimes I wonder with people

Big Kahuna Boot · **Posted:** Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:20 am

blueboys101 wrote:

agree paying 2mil for betts was never a good idea so cya later and getting Thomas and Docherty gives us more flexibility, if Thomas ankle is right and Docherty slots in nicely which I think will happen it creates more depth in our midfield and frees someone up from the backline.
also I wanted us to have a few picks in the draft so keeping our first and 1 second rounder is a plus for me.
getting a tall forward is not easy, u either get a gumbleton or a pods or u trade gibbs and ur first rounder for boyd and going by this thread u cant win.

..best way to get kpp is via draft, we as a club don't do it..

doofdoof · **Joined:** Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:54 pm **Posts:** 2251

Synbad wrote:

kezza wrote:

Synbad wrote:

idle wrote:

If all we end up with at the end of this trade period is a guy with suspect ankles and an unknown kid from Brisbane, I will be sorely disappointed. Considering all the talk about how "aggressive" we were going to be this trade period, I was expecting something special. At the very least a gun forward. With Betts now history and stats of 2011 = 50 goals. 2012 = 48 goals and 2013 = 27 goals (broken jaw) a potential 50 goals a season player gone elsewhere is quite a hole to fill.

Docherty a defensive player, when our defense was probably the best thing to come out of 2013, go figure ...

Daisy is a gamble at best with no guarantees. A great pickup IF he's injuries prove to be nothing serious and long term AND he can regain the form he's known for.

And that's it? That's all we've got to show for our "aggressive" 2013 trade period?

I do hope there's a deal going on somewhere for someone we can get excited about.

No currency
No salary cap space

Just a beautifully crafted list and list management
Who did you want for what ?

I said weeks ago. Eddie had to go for space Lol
Ridiculous! Gambled losing our best forward in the hope we can get Garlett to step up so we can get one premium.

The others were always going to be b and c graders.

Psych owes me an apology...
He slagged me off for suggesting exactly that.

It is hard to believe we have little room in our salary cap, poor management.
There is an article on the AFL website about Hawthorn being ready to swoop as it has about one million dollars spare in its cap after Franklin left. It mentions them using it next year to snare a free agent, Gibbs name was brought up.
The premiers have room but we dont, what a joke.

much more thoughtful considered post than food doof accusing my post as me wanting to pay betts.
clearly a dart that misses the board.
sometimes I wonder with people

Food doof? Genius!

I was just asking a question buddy. Sorry you took it the wrong way!

Rexy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:46 am **Posts:** 28227

If Docherty lands at Carlton that surely ends it for Scotto.

mots · **Joined:** Tue May 11, 2010 9:46 pm **Posts:** 832

I think Scotto will retire. Been a great servant of our club.

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