Any chance Gibbs is on very good coin because GWS were chasing him hard last year?

You'd think with Gibbs being a FA next and Adelaide having Tippett's cap space to play with they may just be able to offer him buckets? But, if he is a RFA we can always match it.

Even if Waite isn't ready, based on our cap issues, he'll probably be forced into retirement next year. Or be let go as a FA.

I hope the sarcasm started with your first post or you need all the help you can get.

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Just because I'm offended, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Spot on.....I need all the help I can get!
........I'm a blues supporter!

Surely the wheel of fortune has to turn!

Livo?

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It's never as good as it looks and it's never as bad as it seems.

crane6 on BF (generally one of the more reliable posters) says that Docherty will be done for pick 28.

We are in the box seat. This is our biggest signing since Dale Thomas.

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Docherty for Hampson sounds like a win for us, but then, I'd never heard of Docherty a month ago...

Nor had I. Trust me, he's a gun.

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"I had to eat"

They finished above us.
Interstate team playing at home, (maybe with less to play for, but it was still a big game for them).
Behind at 3/4 quarter time with a finals berth on line.
... and Murphy did us proud.

My one dislike of too many posts here is not that they criticise Carlton players, that can be fair enough, it's that there can be an unfathomable reluctance to acknowledge when one of our blokes does well.

IMO this seems to result in a collective "wisdom" that unfairly skews opinion here in favour of non-Carlton players over Carlton players.

Maybe it's because we see an opposition player only occassionally and if they have good games there's an assumption that they always play that well, whereas we pay close attention to our own blokes every week.

Pretty much nails online footy forums in general.

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“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb

I had to drop Rexy's quote to get this post across but I agree with Rexy on the proven talent vs the unknown 18 yo's.

I like it london! Truth hurts.

Some posters think the wheel of fortune has already happened.
Unfortunately it will take more than MM in 3 years...imo.

It has got to turn....the right way for CFC....eventually.

When? Dunno....but the window is closing unless we get some srious talent to compliment what we have.

Is MM going to expedite the change for the better?
OR...do we take a long term view and hope Gibbs, Kruezer, Thomas and Murphy are our core group in the next 5-6 years.

I think we've got ourselves in a right royal mess, and if we dont get this sorted this year...ie the start of the wheel of fortune turning our way after a year of nothingness last year...we are in trouble...with early picks or not.

Frankly I cant see the moves fall our way...in the draft or in the trades. Why? there's a trend.

Lets hope our young draftees work out.....
Same old song......for the last decade.

Then again we have posters who think we are so smart we will get the draft picks right this year...fellas...the talent aint running that deep and we cant get a first round pick from anyone to secure anything 'special'. Pick 12 is it. Gotta get that right...but its only one @#$%&! player. Is that the answer? Yeah right.

We have to go and steal the talent...which exists on other lists. The known quantity.

Question is How do we get the talent?....now watch out for the drivel on how we'll do it through the draft exclusively when we haven't done so over a decade when we had even better picks before the compromised drafts....we've got pick 12, 30 odd.....lets do it with our fingers crossed...hey boys?

Live in hope= to live exclusively with the draft hopes...imo.

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

I think it's time to change your signature...

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“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb

Bloke I'm talking about performs as well off the field as Livo did on it ...

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I just want my old club back ... (edit) maybe I have!

Yeah, Bondi, fix the fallout by exploding another atom bomb - great logic.

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Just because I'm offended, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

So if the Doc is in and there's little extra room in our salary cap then we might be at the end of our trades.

Question for posters though. With a tight cap is it worthwhile trading some of the names mentioned previously for third rounders (given interest has apparently been low)? So would you trade any of the following for a third round draft pick to clear cap space in preparation to keep our 2014 free agents?

Bootsma
Lucas
Casboult
Robinson

no

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*(grow - fun - gah)

Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Well how do you know what this club needs?
You cant give us a solution succinctly. Always cryptic.
So why should I listen to you?

Our draft picks over the last decade have been wasted opportunities to get this club up the ladder.

What I'm saying is we are [REDACTED] and all my hope is in the hands of MM right now.
I've changed my signature, thanks GWS.

Not you Paf, me or anyone, let alone the off field leaders and Recruitment people have made a valid point on how we will recover in the short term.

You're probably right that I'm . That's what Carlton does to the devoted.

Tell me. Is there a way forward which will give us success in the short term? Next 3-4 years?
What is it?

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

No from me too.

FMD!!!

Lucas first rounder
Bootsma first rounder
Yarran first rounder
Watson first rounder
Robbo was considered as good as a first rounder.

Do we @#$%&! know how to select first rounders successfully, other than No 1's?
Coz we dont know what to do with 2nd and 3rd round picks other than stab in the dark.

Rookies and mature age rookies is where our successs comes from...so lets get good players from other clubs and mature players from the WAFL SAFL VFL....that's where the success looks like its going to come from, not 3rd rounders.

I am so disappointed in this club. In fact I'm bitter.

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

I don't know if this Age story has been posted yet; but it's interesting reading...to me anyway.


http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/h ... 2v9nf.html



Burgoyne...Guerra...Lake and Gibson..... Premiership players from other Clubs now at Hawthorn.

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Docherty deal done ..officially a blue ! paperwork to be done first thing Monday morning