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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:37 pm 
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MM must get his way. I hope Williams and not Rodgers and Hughes make the selections.

Everyone is on the trade table IMO

Don't listen to the Board including Sticks and Gleeson.

We need a totally different look and structure...


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:03 pm 
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MM must get his way. I hope Williams and not Rodgers and Hughes make the selections.

Everyone is on the trade table IMO

Don't listen to the Board including Sticks and Gleeson.

We need a totally different look and structure...


How many times do you have to be told, Rogers has only been involved in one draft.......


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:41 pm 
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Some interesting bits from BF. One, usually a reliable poster, says McInnes is on the trade table.
Another, not sure about this one, that we have offered Lucas and our first pick for Sam Reid.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:45 pm 
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apart from 6 or so players everyone is on the trade table and will be shopped around ..this is a first for our football club ..its never ever happened in our history before ..we'll be looking to get some early picks ( inside 25 ..we don't think the draft runs much deeper that ) as well as players
There are several players we are looking at ... nothing concrete as yet so no point saying for the sake of rumour .

unless we get a super deal for Yarran guys we wont be looking to trade him ..we are happy to keep him .
and yes even younger players aren't immune ..bootsma for instance doesn't fit in micks plans and the direction he wants to take the club and will be looking for a suitable trade .


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:07 pm 
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bluepill wrote:
apart from 6 or so players everyone is on the trade table and will be shopped around ..this is a first for our football club ..its never ever happened in our history before ..we'll be looking to get some early picks ( inside 25 ..we don't think the draft runs much deeper that ) as well as players
There are several players we are looking at ... nothing concrete as yet so no point saying for the sake of rumour .

unless we get a super deal for Yarran guys we wont be looking to trade him ..we are happy to keep him .
and yes even younger players aren't immune ..bootsma for instance doesn't fit in micks plans and the direction he wants to take the club and will be looking for a suitable trade .

This will be wonderful for team morale.
Dont be surprised when it comes time to renew contracts that players have long memories.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:00 pm 
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Jez1966 wrote:
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Mosquito Fleet wrote:
MM must get his way. I hope Williams and not Rodgers and Hughes make the selections.

Everyone is on the trade table IMO

Don't listen to the Board including Sticks and Gleeson.

We need a totally different look and structure...


How many times do you have to be told, Rogers has only been involved in one draft.......



How many times do you have to be told that Rodgers worked with Hughes at fremantle and worked under Hughes at Carlton


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:21 pm 
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kezza wrote:
bluepill wrote:
apart from 6 or so players everyone is on the trade table and will be shopped around ..this is a first for our football club ..its never ever happened in our history before ..we'll be looking to get some early picks ( inside 25 ..we don't think the draft runs much deeper that ) as well as players
There are several players we are looking at ... nothing concrete as yet so no point saying for the sake of rumour .

unless we get a super deal for Yarran guys we wont be looking to trade him ..we are happy to keep him .
and yes even younger players aren't immune ..bootsma for instance doesn't fit in micks plans and the direction he wants to take the club and will be looking for a suitable trade .

This will be wonderful for team morale.
Dont be surprised when it comes time to renew contracts that players have long memories.


They don't care anymore Kezza. It's all Ratten's fault. :wink:
They just have someone else to blame now. :oops:


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:29 pm 
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I really dont want to lose Robinson.
We'd miss his grunt, and that's exactly what we need and what he would be targeted for.

If it would take him and Pick 12 for Boyd I'd do that in a heartbeat.

We're after Reid. That's Good. So he's rumoured to cost us Pick 12 and Lucas. so Boyd and Patton are out of the picture.

I reckon there's still a deal to be made for Staker and Dockerty and that might include a player or 2 and a pick.

Hampson is the interesting one and secured on contract but the Hawks and Tigers havent got anything to give us for Hammer...who I rate and want to retain. So what then? GWS have Mummy now and missed on Buddy so Pick 1 and Hampson doesnt look so good for Boyd as it did a few weeks back.

Its a weird world. This month is going to make my head spin.

I want change and really upgrade the quality of the list we rather tham gambling with picks for the future.
Just this year, and we need to set up ourselves for FA opportunites in the future too.

Would love to snag Patton/ Boyd. Straighten us up for 10 years.
Would love to get Reid to give us the KP we're craving for now. If not Reid at least a Staker type (who I was dead against a month ago).

The above are handy replacements for Mitchell, McCarthy. Laidler and Davies.
Gives us plenty of flexibility with Hendo and Waite. Set.

Thomas and Shaw would give me an orgasm....free up Tuohy/ Simpson into the midfield, along with Thomas.
Our midfield already looks better with Thomas Tuohy/ Simpson/ Walker in there.

Dockerty and Adams would be handy smalls for the future too...and Dockerty sounds good to go.

If we could get Thomas, Shaw, Reid, Boyd, Dockerty and Adams and lost a mix of Hammer Robbo Yarran Lucas Laidler Duigan Rnd 1, 2, 3 picks in the draft, I reckon we'd have done very well to improve our list for 2014-16.

I want an injection of class, power, height and midfield ability. I want it all.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:34 pm 
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We tanked too. Tanked and failed. And the point you seem to be trying to get across is that we should do it again.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:40 pm 
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Joel selwood was pick 6 wasn't he?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:41 pm 
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bluepill wrote:
apart from 6 or so players everyone is on the trade table and will be shopped around ..this is a first for our football club ..its never ever happened in our history before ..we'll be looking to get some early picks ( inside 25 ..we don't think the draft runs much deeper that ) as well as players
There are several players we are looking at ... nothing concrete as yet so no point saying for the sake of rumour .

unless we get a super deal for Yarran guys we wont be looking to trade him ..we are happy to keep him .
and yes even younger players aren't immune ..bootsma for instance doesn't fit in micks plans and the direction he wants to take the club and will be looking for a suitable trade .


..good to hear, i think last few games that yazz was starting to take on board what mm preaches.. ..a proper off-season with all on board will make us click..

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:42 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
I really dont want to lose Robinson.
We'd miss his grunt, and that's exactly what we need and what he would be targeted for.

If it would take him and Pick 12 for Boyd I'd do that in a heartbeat.

We're after Reid. That's Good. So he's rumoured to cost us Pick 12 and Lucas. so Boyd and Patton are out of the picture.

I reckon there's still a deal to be made for Staker and Dockerty and that might include a player or 2 and a pick.

Hampson is the interesting one and secured on contract but the Hawks and Tigers havent got anything to give us for Hammer...who I rate and want to retain. So what then? GWS have Mummy now and missed on Buddy so Pick 1 and Hampson doesnt look so good for Boyd as it did a few weeks back.

Its a weird world. This month is going to make my head spin.

I want change and really upgrade the quality of the list we rather tham gambling with picks for the future.
Just this year, and we need to set up ourselves for FA opportunites in the future too.

Would love to snag Patton/ Boyd. Straighten us up for 10 years.
Would love to get Reid to give us the KP we're craving for now. If not Reid at least a Staker type (who I was dead against a month ago).

The above are handy replacements for Mitchell, McCarthy. Laidler and Davies.
Gives us plenty of flexibility with Hendo and Waite. Set.

Thomas and Shaw would give me an orgasm....free up Tuohy/ Simpson into the midfield, along with Thomas.
Our midfield already looks better with Thomas Tuohy/ Simpson/ Walker in there.

Dockerty and Adams would be handy smalls for the future too...and Dockerty sounds good to go.

If we could get Thomas, Shaw, Reid, Boyd, Dockerty and Adams and lost a mix of Hammer Robbo Yarran Lucas Laidler Duigan Rnd 1, 2, 3 picks in the draft, I reckon we'd have done very well to improve our list for 2014-16.

I want an injection of class, power, height and midfield ability. I want it all.


@bb

You better change your signature 2010 to 2013 is a write off......


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:44 pm 
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Joel selwood was pick 6 wasn't he?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:46 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
I really dont want to lose Robinson.
We'd miss his grunt, and that's exactly what we need and what he would be targeted for.

If it would take him and Pick 12 for Boyd I'd do that in a heartbeat.

We're after Reid. That's Good. So he's rumoured to cost us Pick 12 and Lucas. so Boyd and Patton are out of the picture.

I reckon there's still a deal to be made for Staker and Dockerty and that might include a player or 2 and a pick.

Hampson is the interesting one and secured on contract but the Hawks and Tigers havent got anything to give us for Hammer...who I rate and want to retain. So what then? GWS have Mummy now and missed on Buddy so Pick 1 and Hampson doesnt look so good for Boyd as it did a few weeks back.

Its a weird world. This month is going to make my head spin.

I want change and really upgrade the quality of the list we rather tham gambling with picks for the future.
Just this year, and we need to set up ourselves for FA opportunites in the future too.

Would love to snag Patton/ Boyd. Straighten us up for 10 years.
Would love to get Reid to give us the KP we're craving for now. If not Reid at least a Staker type (who I was dead against a month ago).

The above are handy replacements for Mitchell, McCarthy. Laidler and Davies.
Gives us plenty of flexibility with Hendo and Waite. Set.

Thomas and Shaw would give me an orgasm....free up Tuohy/ Simpson into the midfield, along with Thomas.
Our midfield already looks better with Thomas Tuohy/ Simpson/ Walker in there.

Dockerty and Adams would be handy smalls for the future too...and Dockerty sounds good to go.

If we could get Thomas, Shaw, Reid, Boyd, Dockerty and Adams and lost a mix of Hammer Robbo Yarran Lucas Laidler Duigan Rnd 1, 2, 3 picks in the draft, I reckon we'd have done very well to improve our list for 2014-16.

I want an injection of class, power, height and midfield ability. I want it all.

Shane savage for hammer would be good business all round


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:51 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
I really dont want to lose Robinson.
We'd miss his grunt, and that's exactly what we need and what he would be targeted for.

If it would take him and Pick 12 for Boyd I'd do that in a heartbeat.

We're after Reid. That's Good. So he's rumoured to cost us Pick 12 and Lucas. so Boyd and Patton are out of the picture.

I reckon there's still a deal to be made for Staker and Dockerty and that might include a player or 2 and a pick.

Hampson is the interesting one and secured on contract but the Hawks and Tigers havent got anything to give us for Hammer...who I rate and want to retain. So what then? GWS have Mummy now and missed on Buddy so Pick 1 and Hampson doesnt look so good for Boyd as it did a few weeks back.

Its a weird world. This month is going to make my head spin.

I want change and really upgrade the quality of the list we rather tham gambling with picks for the future.
Just this year, and we need to set up ourselves for FA opportunites in the future too.

Would love to snag Patton/ Boyd. Straighten us up for 10 years.
Would love to get Reid to give us the KP we're craving for now. If not Reid at least a Staker type (who I was dead against a month ago).

The above are handy replacements for Mitchell, McCarthy. Laidler and Davies.
Gives us plenty of flexibility with Hendo and Waite. Set.

Thomas and Shaw would give me an orgasm....free up Tuohy/ Simpson into the midfield, along with Thomas.
Our midfield already looks better with Thomas Tuohy/ Simpson/ Walker in there.

Dockerty and Adams would be handy smalls for the future too...and Dockerty sounds good to go.

If we could get Thomas, Shaw, Reid, Boyd, Dockerty and Adams and lost a mix of Hammer Robbo Yarran Lucas Laidler Duigan Rnd 1, 2, 3 picks in the draft, I reckon we'd have done very well to improve our list for 2014-16.

I want an injection of class, power, height and midfield ability. I want it all.


Why bother writing so much "dream time".
First of all the player must want to leave or come to Carlton and then a satisfactory deal must be secured. There is no way we could ever trade to receive all of the above. Please be realistic when suggesting possibilities.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:00 pm 
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kezza wrote:
bluepill wrote:
apart from 6 or so players everyone is on the trade table and will be shopped around ..this is a first for our football club ..its never ever happened in our history before ..we'll be looking to get some early picks ( inside 25 ..we don't think the draft runs much deeper that ) as well as players
There are several players we are looking at ... nothing concrete as yet so no point saying for the sake of rumour .

unless we get a super deal for Yarran guys we wont be looking to trade him ..we are happy to keep him .
and yes even younger players aren't immune ..bootsma for instance doesn't fit in micks plans and the direction he wants to take the club and will be looking for a suitable trade .

This will be wonderful for team morale.
Dont be surprised when it comes time to renew contracts that players have long memories.


Winning will cure that, make the top 4 and no one will leave in a hurry.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:34 pm 
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I think we are playing a very dangerous game this trade period. You cannot possibly have 90% of the list "available at the right offer".
As much as I realise this list has under-performed and have serious question marks on them collectively and individually, this is utter madness and destroys footy clubs!


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:38 pm 
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I think we are playing a very dangerous game this trade period. You cannot possibly have 90% of the list "available at the right offer".
As much as I realise this list has under-performed and have serious question marks on them collectively and individually, this is utter madness and destroys footy clubs!



Surrey. The club is just a word. There is no club since we left princes park. All members have is a right to a seat at a sterile ground and we meet via this silly website. The club is just a website now....


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