I don't mind criticism when it's due woof, but I think it has to be balanced with the positive otherwise it's just bashing for the sake of it. The Fev trade would have to be the biggest win for any club since Hawthorn swapped Croad for Hodge, (and then got him back).

Big Kev, can you actually read?
Henderson is a great get but the club wanted Bradshaw and Rischetelli, Henderson was not even on the radar until Ricky Nixon got involved.
Our trading is akin to being a drug user, we need the quick fix.

...and pick 12 to go with it was just thrown in out of the blue by Voss. We didnt even ask for it.


I know for a fact we were never interested in the RIschetelli and Bradshaw deal and it was all part of the negotiations. Gave Voss another night of dreaming of a forward line of Fev and Brown.

Worked a treat. The next day as expected Risch and Bradshaw pull out and Voss is left with a hard on for fev so has to come up with someone else. Henda and Nixon come into it at that point.

Ok Woof, so no credit to the Blues for that.

Just to help me understand where you're coming from, what would you consider to be our best trade/draft selection(s) in, say, the past five years?

2005: 8 selections Murphy and Kennedy
2006: 11 selections Gibbs, Grigg, Jacobs and Jamo
2007: 8 selections Kruezer Armfield Ellard
2008: 10 selections Yarran Robbo Garlett
2009: 9 selections Lucas Casboult Touhy
2010 onwards to early to judge

46 selections and 15 are worth a mention that's about a 33% strike rate. We pick 3 players, 2 of them won't make it based on history.

Elite players = 1 Josh Kennedy WCE

The rest are good or below.

Interesting analysis Woof. I wonder the what strike rate at other clubs is? Without doing any research I'd guess the Geelong's would be somewhat better than that and Melbourne's somewhat worse, but the others?

Actually a further thought on that -- we had pretty early picks those years so that needs to be taken into consideration.

Nice stats but it's about what we missed not what we picked.

Some drafts were good some were poor.

IMO we've missed some very obvious selections over the past decade that have depleted our list.

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the truth is he is on around that amount yet doesn't contribute a lot to the midfield given his size
says a lot about the organization you work for.
the board needs to go when it is oversize and shit.
their track record proves. I love it when so many of us you included love it when our arch enemies are going to get the kitchen sink for being blinkered by power and greed yet certain members still on the board have been responsible for making shit positions because they are so far up their own arseholes .

You have no idea what he may or may not be on or what he may or not be going to be paid so why bother to make shite up.

You might think it says alot about the organisation I work for but your 'fairy tale' BS posts, that have no basis in fact, actually say a far bit more about your level of thought process. I doubt anyone could limbo under the bar you continue to set.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ok sorry to go over old ground but

1 refused to leave our home ground built a stand that put us millions in debt and never got filled whilst other clubs went down the alternative path and went ahead of us. It even faced into the setting sun
2 Cheated on the salary cap more than once then copped a hamburger with the lot from the AFL that set us back years in onfield performance
3 Have sacked our last 3 coaches paying out their contracts putting us further indebt. what a flower joke Extended Pagan's contract by 2 years for winning the wizard cup. Laughable
4 Finish on or near the bottom for nearly half a decade
5 have won one final in 11 years despite having a swag of high draft picks who haven't delivered
6 allowed guys like Kouta, Whitnall, Judd and now Murphy to be captains. there all been or are shit. No leadership
7 had a reserve coach who was very part time. Disgrace
8 Still in debt in the millions with no new plans to reduce it unless you want to enlighten me on what a board that consists of 13 is going to do about that
9 And finally a President who is thick has been their too bloody long having been part of all this as a player and now an administrator.

And all that is the tipoff the iceberg
Go on deny any of those 9 things
Anyone on the board involved with these events should be gone
You guys can defend the club and say what you like about my lack of knowledge but
as both of you know clubs are judged in the end on
wins verses losses
financial success
With all the misery of the past decade we should be top 4
We may make the 8 because of problems at another club
Didn't this board declare 3 flags in 5 years fellas
yeah 3 flags in 5 years
or was it 2
whatever
those 9 points are correct
I dare you to challenge them

go on defend them because people on that board have been involved in some way with all of them

and they need to @#$%&! off now

Yes, that's all good and well and I agree with the majority of it but it doesn't change the fact you were wrong about Betts.
Lets still to reality when judging the club. Feeding false information only clouds the issue.

By the way, Mick openly admits he picked Murphy as captain. You can hardly blame the board or administration for that other than the stupidity of giving one person total control.

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Your wrong on the second issue. We have been crap so we sack the last 3 coaches.
Blame the coach
the real problem is the board.
In everything
Shit flows downstream
Ratts last 5 years( 3 years too long)
Sticks still there
Jeanie still there
Ruffy still there
And I personally cant see the club being successful until some ticket challenges it and I have lost interest because everything we do as a club isnt really worth it because the people at the top are incompetent to run a footy club
And that effects every decision made by everybody

Cazzeman doesn't want to see that

Bottom line BV if Murphy was at a successful club he wouldn't be captain. His personality doesn't fit the job description

As for the Betts wage thing I have been told that he could be on that wage if he plays well which is a joke when the only position he can play successfully is up forward. Given his size and the way the game is being played by the successful clubs that is a disgrace

it is just another example of why this club is average

A great example of why we are average last night.
Betts played the whole night in attack
To move forward he has to play between the arcs at times.
And backlines have figured him out
Eddie will be finished as a footballer next year if he doesn't do something about it
its the way footy is now
As sinners says our midfield is terrible

Totally agree - just bring them in as a priority - as long as that doesn't include Thomas

Footnote: out of the werckage this year credit to Curnow. Isn't the answer, but certainly gives it everything and has been serviceable. Unfortunately, we have too many similar types.

has been in the system for close to 10 years now
doubt he will be capable of changing as a footballer
in my view a perfect example of trading someone when they had some currency
could have possibly picked a first rounder a few years ago
as Collingwood did with Wellingham
we are so stupid

So off to Adelaide for about that wage

I will laugh if he becomes a on baller
that would be proof positive that Carlton is seriously [REDACTED]


and for me personally, I don't want Thomas
an overrated footballer
did have a good finals series
that's about it
MMs pet

just no idea at all

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Has Carlton folded yet?

Always the ray of sunshine on TC. What if Eddie doesn't become an onballer at $500,000 a year? Does that mean you would have kept him at CFC for 2 Million based on his output this year?

And If Thomas does join Carlton and stars are you coming back on to say what a great get it was?

Regards Cazzesman

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