yeah he will be ok harks.. but he wont make the difference .. hes a guy that should play a part..

and the kind you should pick up with pick 50 odd...

not sure though if thats what you pick with 12 or 35...

youd want someone faster

i like graham

usually good choices with his decision making.. tidy skills.. and a good mark and goal player for his size.

but lacks pace

_________________
Due to recent budget cuts and the rising cost of electricity, gas, and oil....... the Light at the End of the Tunnel has been turned off. We apologize for the inconvenience.

Which one player will make the difference? How would we know?

Was Fyfe going to be the difference in 2009? Dangerfield in 2007? Menzel in 2012?

Anyway, I don't care for one player being the hero. I want our squad of 44 to be disciplined and toeing the line. Simple.

although important, give me football smarts over pace anyday

A good example is Sewell, who lacks pace but complements Hawthorn's midfield beautifully

I think that is the key, you not only need midfield depth but also a midfield that is balanced

The most impressive player yesterday was Mundy, who has good skills, can run and be physical in the contest

Don't worry about Sewell, give me Mitchell.

I've watched Graham closely and I like the way he goes about things on the day but even moreso for the work he does behind the scenes.
That's often a measure of commitment of an individual. Not everyone has that to start with and yet fewer are able to keep it up. As it stands for now, so far so good.

id take 3 fyffes or dangerfields over 3 grahams anyday of the week

_________________
Due to recent budget cuts and the rising cost of electricity, gas, and oil....... the Light at the End of the Tunnel has been turned off. We apologize for the inconvenience.

No kidding......Insightful.

i love fyffe.. sure he missed some goals but hes a gun!

_________________
Due to recent budget cuts and the rising cost of electricity, gas, and oil....... the Light at the End of the Tunnel has been turned off. We apologize for the inconvenience.

I take your point, but seeing as they played against each other in 4 of those, they could hardly go 9 from 9. Excellent use of statistics though

Innovation, unfortunately, is something that seems to be in exceedingly short supply at our club. In fact you could say it's pretty much non-existent. Our entire approach is fated to have us no better than the middle reaches of the 8, and no amount of tinkering around the edges will change that. At the risk of turning every second thread into the same story... organisational and cultural change (starting at the top) is desperately needed.

Interesting that as an U18 yr old Fyfe was a fairly vanilla, very skinny FP/HFF/Winger who was just 186cms. Lacked real speed and floated in and out of games. Took a nice mark but not much else really stood out in his game. Imagine CFC using a 1st round pick on a kid like that TC posters would have a field day.

Now on Ch7 Footy show this morning there is talk Freo might give him up for the #1 pick to GWS.

Regards Cazzesman

_________________
Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

We'd have probably turned Fyfe into another JR

_________________
WADA medical director Dr Alan Vernec describes Essendon* FC drug case as biggest scandal in team sport the world of sport has seen. #WC2WB

#GUILTY

_________________
Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

That's the problem Cazz. They saw what we couldn't .

What's your point? That the Carlton recruiters should be allowed to go unaccountable due to how fluky it all is? Maybe Carlton's scouts weren't looking close enough? There's a difference from drafting a quality mid-sized FP/HFF/Winger with a highish pick every so often (sounds like Troy Menzal) than the recruiters looking at 'vanilla' as a virtue. The club can't continue to recruit 'safe' players throughout it's existence or it limits the talent it can bring in and doesn't address the needs of the game.

_________________
Just because I'm offended, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Or... we recruit ok but other clubs are better at developing their talent. Who knows.

Yes it has been an excellent get by Freo. 19 other picks came before it so we were not alone in missing him. Just as many vanilla 186cm HFF don't make but in the AFL and every club delists a few every year.

Regards Cazzesman

_________________
Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

it's ok I'm sure the review has identified exactly where we're falling down

I won't comment on the recruiting but there will be good players that will fall through the cracks if you haven't a good development program in place.

Our development had been very ordinary in recent years. Anyone watch the VFL last year?

We do need more coaches though as we can't expect to cover all the bases with the few we have.

Oh... that review.

_________________
Just because I'm offended, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

The flukes make up for the duds. Where are our flukes?

_________________
Just because I'm offended, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Mzungu was very good yesterday too.
Big bodied and his skills were pretty good.Hard runner without all the frills.
Id take him too...
Of course Mundy and Barlow are guns.
Barlow was a full back not unlike Thornton for the state carnival... too small for fb... but is a great midfielder in the guts
Barlow was a VFL player.

They have recruited well

_________________
Due to recent budget cuts and the rising cost of electricity, gas, and oil....... the Light at the End of the Tunnel has been turned off. We apologize for the inconvenience.