Murphy played 7 more games this year.
Simpson averaged .7 of an uncontested possession less this year to last. He's hardly the difference.
As for him going back to help the defence, our defence was more heavily scored against this year than last.

The reality is our game is totally based around contested footy at the detriment of uncontested.
We're number 1 in the AFL for contested marks. How stupid is that? Surely our list isn't based around contested marking. Its the quantity of opportunities that has us number 1. Not the quality of our list.
We're 3rd in contested possessions per game. 3rd in clearances per game, 2nd in 1%ers per game.
Everything is about long kicking to contests. Winning the contested ball and putting it back into a contested situation.
FMD, its too hard to win the ball without giving the opposition a 50/50 shot at winning it straight back.

As a result we're 16th in effective disposals,15th in clangers, 18th in uncontested disposals.
If anyone thinks its because Judd has lost a yard of pace, they're dreaming. If anyone thinks Dale Thomas will fix the problem, they're dreaming.

We're too predictable to the opposition and we make it too easy for them to win the ball back. Thats not about personnel.

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Malthouse is coach and he isn't going anywhere anytime soon. He has a game plan and recruitment will be focused upon that plan. Like it or lump it the appointment of Malthouse is cemented and he'll do according to the vision he has for Carlton.

I'll be the first to say I don't like the bomb it long / boundary line game style. If I was to pick a style of football I like (purely as a spectator) I would say Geelong's brand of football is best. Will Malthouse continue with his vision and brand of footy at Carlton? I think he will. As it stands from my own view of how we are as a team, I think a lot of our issues are between the ears. So far this season I've absolutely loved watching us come from behind to win. This to me is a major turning point in our self belief. I think with only a couple of prime additions to the squad we will improve immensely.

As for the Sydney game - I don't take anything from our display that night. I think we played our final, and grand final against Port and Richmond. After that, we were done. 95,000 screaming fans at the MCG was a grand final in anyone language. We won it in a memorable come from behind victory. For season 2013, that's as good as we got.

The loss to Sydney is a blessing in disguise imho. We go into the break full well knowing the work ahead of us and under no illusions what its going to take to beat the best. After the two previous wins, which had everyone up and about, which was great for the club and the boys confidence, the Sydney game was a good slap in the face, the job is far from over.

I rate 2013 a good season under Malthouse. We got gifted some good finals experience both winning and losing, and we know exactly where we are at. And the coach has come out and plainly stated our deficiencies and what we need to work on. I'm still spewing we didn't win the flag in 2013, but I'm confident, under Malthouse, where heading tin the right direction.

The draft period has me anxious ...

Bias?

Point 1. Lets get it straight now. I'm happy for Malthouse to see out his contract.
Point 2. I agree the list needs a lot of work.
Point 3. I'm glad we finished sixth and unlike some lemon suckers here, I have been buoyant about our capacity to play finals all season.

Dont misrepresent me.

Does that mean I have to accept everything the players and coaches serve up. No.
I didnt accept everything Ratten and his mob served up and I was critical when I thought they deserved it. This year is no different. I reserve the right to question the way the team plays as a passionate supporter.

If you and the rest of the apathetic sycophants dont like it. Bad luck. This isnt "talking suck up to the coach"
Its "talking Carlton" where supporters come to discuss the team and club. Good performances and bad.

Its funny, I dont see you complaining about posters unmercilessly bagging the players. Yet we cannot discuss the performance of the coach.
Thats because you're leading the chorus of slagging the players.

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List still needs to refreshed no matter how you look at it. All the consistent finals teams have clearly defined systems and game plans which we are still a fair bit away from getting. I don't know where the previous administration was going with this team since we aren't particularly strong in any area of the ground compared to other teams. Can't say speed since that doesn't stop teams like Geelong and Freo who are filled with strong bodies from just bullying you around the ground. Going to need quite a few changes if we are going to be a boundary line team since we don't have any natural Swan/Pendlebury-like accumulators of the ball. You know the guys who just happen to be in the right places unlike our guys who have to fight for every touch.

I really hope MM appoints his new assistant/s before he makes too many calls on which players get selected.

Frankly I think he's struggling to keep up with the modern game.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

So now Juddy, Murphy, Gibbs, Simpson and comp. just fight for every possession and don't know we're the right places are......bollocks. Now I have heard everything. Talk about pissing down someone back and tell them it's raining....

not to mention number 25

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You're right, it is silly....Fevola also helped out BR's stats for a couple of years

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haha . No 3 was pretty good one year too. Coaches gave him MVP.

If it wasn't for Judd, Fev, Murphy and probably Betts who scored around 50 goals for a few years there too Ratts would have struggled.Scotland was also pretty good and so was Carrazzo there for a bit. Garlett bobbed up and Russ had a good season too. If it wasn't for those guys Ratts would have really struggled. Laidlers 2011 was really good and Duigan was handy for a few games . They also played a part in Ratts not - not taking us to a single finals game.

Blue vain

All you do is bag the coach. Is there anything you think he has done well? What is the balanced view. Personally, he has his faults but so much better than his predecessors. To me malthouse gets 7 out of 10 things right compared to 7 out of 10 wrong

Micky Malthouse will be coach for as long as he likes.... hes 60.. he will be there when he is 70..cos ........
we brought him in to win a flag in 3 seasons..... (while juddy is still there)... but we all k now thats not whats going to happen...
so he will stay longer..he will create his own list.. we all know he wants ultimate power .. and its going to be given to him..
he will make a Carlton career of eventually building his own list of players and he will take them close9because thats what he aways does).. noone will sack him because of his 'closeness' its so tantalising.. meanwhile he will set himself up as the Czar....
The players will ultimately love him and he will be close.. close to the players and close to the prize.

And thats the secret to MMs longevity...

.. it will happen at Carlton too..!!!
Watch him call every shot and run the football side of the club...

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Would be nice if the assistants had been there throughout the year to assess as well.

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Synbad,

Do you have a problem with mm getting "close" to the prize and players?
What is the alternative?

Personally wasn't expecting to much this year. I figured Malthouse would have a very good look at the list, experiment with the gameplan and positions. From there he would decide the players he wanted to keep and what type of players he needed to take the steps needed to be in the mix for the flag. For me making finals would be nice and it was but not expected. Quite happy for Malthouse to make the changes he needs in both players and coaching staff. I have full confidence in him to do what is needed and that next year we will see some real progression in the teams development. I know there are some who don't think he did much at Collingwood. But in my opinion he took a very ordinary list to two grand finals and just happened to run into the best team in the modern era in Brisbane. He then stripped the list rebuilt and won a flag. With Carlton he can strip the list earlier, rebuild and have a shot at another flag. That'll do me.

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L.M 35-06

Agree, MM has one huge ego and he will not let people around him that have a big say in what he is able to produce (recruitment, list management) reflect on his performance, I suspect the prickly MM you see on TV is the same prickly MM that challenges and pushes the people around him to get it right. We have made too many stupid decisions, MM ego will make the people making these decisions a lot more accountable.

They know where the right places are but aside from Judd they are silky players who require better inside mids to help out. You know we gave up pick 11 for Mclean for a reason right? Watching Murphy deal with the tag all season and Gibbs either having great games or be completely taken out of the game by his direct opponent shows how we struggle getting enough of the ball too. Gibbs for example only had 11 touches against North. None of our guys really make it easy when it comes to getting the pill compared to the guys Malthouse had at Collingwood.

no.. i like the guy.. i dont mind he is our coach.. hes a nuts n bolts guy... were probably lucky to have him...

its not iike we do indie reviews or anything from the top.. and its not like they would have brought in anyone better.. they wouldnt.

micky understands the world of footy clubs...

im just explaining his pattern...methodology and looking into the past to see the future


he is the best we were ever going to have without the club doing what it genuinely needs to do

i dont get the angst against him... he will get us solid again

what i DO NOT GET.. is how so many people can slap him down... when the probem is higher up.

its fleetingly touched upon by his haters...

if you dont ike micky your first port of call for a kick in the head is sticks the board .. mckay and swann...

mick gets his cheques signed by losers...!!!
he is the only winner we have in a loser club...everybody else has no recent runs on the board in what they have been doing.....

and hes waled into chaos..

are we still baming the AFL????

Were no good as a a club....

Some people bring up the gameplan against Swans...
OR McVeighs 20 touches in a quarter and 42 for the game...

They actually had SIX touch it over 30 times...

We had 39 tackles team wide...

1 between Judd and Murphy

Throw in Simmo Robbo etc and they all had one between the lot of them...

You cant win if this is what youre going to do.

Lowest for the season in a game to get into a prelim....

Mick will fix that.....its mental ....its a legacy of what was here before...

But we are such a weak club...!!!.. a piss weak club!!!...Mick will own this club because the people who run it dont know what to do...

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murphy and gibbs between them...had 1 tackle in a final to get into a prelim...

im not kidding here.. id have not extended judds contract end of season..
and id have murphy on the market...

why???

murphy cant live in the sun .. he needs to live in the shadow of someone better than him..like an albino he is allergic to the sun

he hates the tags.. he hates the attention.. and forever bigger bodied players in a 50/50 will smash him... he will continue to go into his shell in our set up

he would be better as 3rd banana in a better midfield set up

judd?? hes laughable.. hes been laughable for the last 2 and a half years...
The odd quarter.. the odd ok game..

not enough for a guy who hates to spread back...

Jude Bolton is a better player and hes retiring...

We need a whole new midfield....

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More than happy for Sticks and Swan to go if they take Mick with them.

Oh Yea ..

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