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 Post subject: Re: Sakc Malthouse!!!
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:17 pm 
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moshe25 wrote:
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The players were not switched on but also a truly disgraceful performance from the super duper coach.

Only 2 more years of ineptness to go. I just hope the damage is limited.


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Get with the program Moshe.

MM is useless, overrated and never achieved anything. His first year at Collingwood he only had seven wins!! It took him another 2 years to make the GF. Useless.

This list should have won a premiership. That's why MM was brought in. The media said so.

Sydney are average and we had Yarran, Curnow, Armfield, Robinson, Casboult & Bell.

Some people need to wake up and see the reality of the situation! :banghead:

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 Post subject: Re: Sakc Malthouse!!!
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:26 pm 
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Malthouse has more finals wins than any other coach, alive or dead in the history of the game. You cannot 'fluke' that.

The old silver fox is still relevant, the way with which he polished a turd with this roster with a finals victory is all the proof we need.

Lets extend him!


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 Post subject: Re: Sakc Malthouse!!!
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:48 pm 
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So much sooking by guys who like to take potshots but offer no solutions. What would you change? "Better system" Yeah how would you change our current systems ? "uhh better systems" ......serious nfi. Judd on one leg and Murphy with suspect knees on an ice skating rink with no Carazzo or Curnow. Yeah I'm sure Ratten would have done so much better.


So you are saying I have no idea because I didn't blame injuries and the state of the ground for the Blues loss?

Mick got out coached. The system he uses doesn't get the best out of our list. It is obvious.

Horse had his best players out. Lost some early in the game and played on an ice skating rink but he still worked out a way of taking advantage of the Mick Malthouse system phase of the Blues gameplan and then knew how to stop the attacking system out the window phase that came later.

I don't have a solution. I am not the coach. The million dollar man should have the solution.


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 Post subject: Re: Sakc Malthouse!!!
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:53 pm 
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club29 wrote:
So you are saying I have no idea because I didn't blame injuries and the state of the ground for the Blues loss?

Mick got out coached. The system he uses doesn't get the best out of our list. It is obvious.


Not to me. Please explain?

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 Post subject: Re: Sakc Malthouse!!!
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:59 pm 
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So you are saying I have no idea because I didn't blame injuries and the state of the ground for the Blues loss?

Mick got out coached. The system he uses doesn't get the best out of our list. It is obvious.


Not to me. Please explain?


We lose lots of games.


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 Post subject: Re: Sakc Malthouse!!!
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:07 pm 
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He did tag a lot this year which means he didn't have faith in our midfield to beat their opponents on ability. It would appear that we have drafted too many similar type players previously. I think the technical football term is a half back flanker.


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 Post subject: Re: Sakc Malthouse!!!
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:13 pm 
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club29 wrote:
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club29 wrote:
So you are saying I have no idea because I didn't blame injuries and the state of the ground for the Blues loss?

Mick got out coached. The system he uses doesn't get the best out of our list. It is obvious.


Not to me. Please explain?


We lose lots of games.


I'm actually serious. I thought it was more poor execution and effort than anything else.

I'm interested to know how he was out coached.

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 Post subject: Re: Sakc Malthouse!!!
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:19 pm 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
club29 wrote:
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club29 wrote:
So you are saying I have no idea because I didn't blame injuries and the state of the ground for the Blues loss?

Mick got out coached. The system he uses doesn't get the best out of our list. It is obvious.


Not to me. Please explain?


We lose lots of games.


I'm actually serious. I thought it was more poor execution and effort than anything else.

I'm interested to know how he was out coached.


You answer your question there.

Your previous question was about me believing his system not getting the best out of us. Win loss is the obvious indicator but you can even look within and see what happens. You could argue that throwing out the traits he is famous for to get us a win is his system but I don't buy that.

Last night Horse got his team up and running with men down on a crap surface while Mick couldn't. Outcoached.


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 Post subject: Re: Sakc Malthouse!!!
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Outcoached completely ... Where do we start?

Probably the game plan ... he has just about squashed any flair out of the side in the name of defense ... yet compared to last year there is not a lot of difference in the stats ... so we have sacrificed our attacking strength with nothing ... on 3 or 4 occasions the players have managed to break free this year ... but essentially a boring and completely impotent version of a good defensive team.

How on earth was McVeigh allowed to run free like that in the second quarter? ... the mind boggles ... we had an extra player spare on the bench for rotations and yet he was able to pick up 1 in every 6 of Swan's possessions that quarter. MM just sits in the box ... hopes something will happen ... then blames everyone but himself when it doesn't.

Like I said ... 2 more years of damage to go.

Roll on 2016.

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 Post subject: Re: Sakc Malthouse!!!
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:40 pm 
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Not sure. Sometimes you are just not good enough. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Sakc Malthouse!!!
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:41 pm 
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club29 wrote:
BM123 wrote:
So much sooking by guys who like to take potshots but offer no solutions. What would you change? "Better system" Yeah how would you change our current systems ? "uhh better systems" ......serious nfi. Judd on one leg and Murphy with suspect knees on an ice skating rink with no Carazzo or Curnow. Yeah I'm sure Ratten would have done so much better.


So you are saying I have no idea because I didn't blame injuries and the state of the ground for the Blues loss?

Mick got out coached. The system he uses doesn't get the best out of our list. It is obvious.

Horse had his best players out. Lost some early in the game and played on an ice skating rink but he still worked out a way of taking advantage of the Mick Malthouse system phase of the Blues gameplan and then knew how to stop the attacking system out the window phase that came later.

I don't have a solution. I am not the coach. The million dollar man should have the solution.


Every year, 17 coaches don't have the solution. That's about $10000000 worth of wasted money by the clubs.
What do you think of Lyon, Longmire, Clarkson or Scott?
Well in 7 days time two of that illustrious quartet will will be losers, having survived only one more match than the worst coach in Carlton's history (according to some)

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 Post subject: Re: Sakc Malthouse!!!
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It's gonna be a loooooooooooooooooong offseason :garthp:

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 Post subject: Re: Sakc Malthouse!!!
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:19 pm 
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BigBlueWave wrote:
Outcoached completely ... Where do we start?

Probably the game plan ... he has just about squashed any flair out of the side in the name of defense ... yet compared to last year there is not a lot of difference in the stats ... so we have sacrificed our attacking strength with nothing ... on 3 or 4 occasions the players have managed to break free this year ... but essentially a boring and completely impotent version of a good defensive team.

How on earth was McVeigh allowed to run free like that in the second quarter? ... the mind boggles ... we had an extra player spare on the bench for rotations and yet he was able to pick up 1 in every 6 of Swan's possessions that quarter. MM just sits in the box ... hopes something will happen ... then blames everyone but himself when it doesn't.

Like I said ... 2 more years of damage to go.

Roll on 2016.

Well we have had 5 already, what is another 3!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Sakc Malthouse!!!
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:24 pm 
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Trigger wrote:
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Outcoached completely ... Where do we start?

Probably the game plan ... he has just about squashed any flair out of the side in the name of defense ... yet compared to last year there is not a lot of difference in the stats ... so we have sacrificed our attacking strength with nothing ... on 3 or 4 occasions the players have managed to break free this year ... but essentially a boring and completely impotent version of a good defensive team.

How on earth was McVeigh allowed to run free like that in the second quarter? ... the mind boggles ... we had an extra player spare on the bench for rotations and yet he was able to pick up 1 in every 6 of Swan's possessions that quarter. MM just sits in the box ... hopes something will happen ... then blames everyone but himself when it doesn't.

Like I said ... 2 more years of damage to go.

Roll on 2016.

Well we have had 5 already, what is another 3!!!


5??? I count at least 10! :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Sakc Malthouse!!!
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:32 pm 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
Not sure. Sometimes you are just not good enough. :wink:


True but it is good fun blaming Mick when you don't like the guy. :mad:


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 Post subject: Re: Sakc Malthouse!!!
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:38 pm 
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club29 wrote:
ThePsychologist wrote:
club29 wrote:
ThePsychologist wrote:
club29 wrote:
So you are saying I have no idea because I didn't blame injuries and the state of the ground for the Blues loss?

Mick got out coached. The system he uses doesn't get the best out of our list. It is obvious.


Not to me. Please explain?


We lose lots of games.


I'm actually serious. I thought it was more poor execution and effort than anything else.

I'm interested to know how he was out coached.


You answer your question there.

Your previous question was about me believing his system not getting the best out of us. Win loss is the obvious indicator but you can even look within and see what happens. You could argue that throwing out the traits he is famous for to get us a win is his system but I don't buy that.

Last night Horse got his team up and running with men down on a crap surface while Mick couldn't. Outcoached.


Your excuse was the W/L ratio ? fmd :banghead: We don't have the midfield rotations to beat Sydney and having an unfit Judd, Murphy and no Carazzo with Curnow going down early doesn't help in that regard. What were you expecting ? A flag?


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 Post subject: Re: Sakc Malthouse!!!
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It's gonna be a loooooooooooooooooong offseason :garthp:



I think I'll be viewing the cheats thread :thanks:

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 Post subject: Re: Sakc Malthouse!!!
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:44 pm 
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BigBlueWave wrote:
Outcoached completely ... Where do we start?

Probably the game plan ... he has just about squashed any flair out of the side in the name of defense ... yet compared to last year there is not a lot of difference in the stats ... so we have sacrificed our attacking strength with nothing ... on 3 or 4 occasions the players have managed to break free this year ... but essentially a boring and completely impotent version of a good defensive team.

How on earth was McVeigh allowed to run free like that in the second quarter? ... the mind boggles ... we had an extra player spare on the bench for rotations and yet he was able to pick up 1 in every 6 of Swan's possessions that quarter. MM just sits in the box ... hopes something will happen ... then blames everyone but himself when it doesn't.

Like I said ... 2 more years of damage to go.

Roll on 2016.


Our biggest loss this year was 43 points against Collingwood despite our midfield getting smashed that game. Defense is a hell of a lot better then it was under Ratten since we don't have hacks like Paul Bower and Setanta running around down back. Who do you think could have gone to Mcveigh ? All of Gibbs, Judd, Murphy and Bell had their own problems to deal with considering how many Swans mids got over 30 touches. The pretty running football under Ratten doesn't hold up under finals and Richmond who were 2 points away from top four showed how it falls apart under pressure.


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 Post subject: Re: Sakc Malthouse!!!
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ThePsychologist wrote:
Trigger wrote:
BigBlueWave wrote:
Outcoached completely ... Where do we start?

Probably the game plan ... he has just about squashed any flair out of the side in the name of defense ... yet compared to last year there is not a lot of difference in the stats ... so we have sacrificed our attacking strength with nothing ... on 3 or 4 occasions the players have managed to break free this year ... but essentially a boring and completely impotent version of a good defensive team.

How on earth was McVeigh allowed to run free like that in the second quarter? ... the mind boggles ... we had an extra player spare on the bench for rotations and yet he was able to pick up 1 in every 6 of Swan's possessions that quarter. MM just sits in the box ... hopes something will happen ... then blames everyone but himself when it doesn't.

Like I said ... 2 more years of damage to go.

Roll on 2016.

Well we have had 5 already, what is another 3!!!


5??? I count at least 10! :wink:[/
Mm has set us back that far has he, boy are we [REDACTED].I did not think a coach in his first year could set us back that far. :lol: even when he was at the pies he set us back. Boy are we that uneducated. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Sakc Malthouse!!!
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:51 pm 
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I like Mick as our coach and think he was the best option for us, but he was outcoached.

Once they were a rotation down, we needed to spread the ball wide by switching at every opportunity. .a bit like playing soccer against 10 men...if we did this for the first 20 of each quarter, we would have run all over them.

Instead, we kept it in close where any advantage we had in run, was nullified

Very simple, yet we have some of the stupidest players in the league who continually bombed without looking..


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