Absolutely not true, go back to threads about Kreuz in his first/second year.....loved him.

Has not improved one iota in the 4 seasons since, some can look through their navy blue shades but he was actually doing more then than he does now.

I can just see it at the end of next season, no doubt many threads on why we keep players in the hope they'll get better but watch their trade value drop by the round

Not sure why my posts are being deleted but whatever.....

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I'm sorry they're being deleted teaguey as one can only respond to what presents.
Mick has already put a knife through any suggestions of Kreuzer or Gibbs being traded. I think he means it and for very good reasons.

Why would you think that Kreuzers value will diminish. It may happen but it may just as much go the other way.
If someone has some facts at hand then all fine but just to rattle off the same old over and again against everything coming out of the CFC is a little bit...............pointless?

Anyway, again my response for you suggesting that Kreuzer was useless on Saturday. All thing considered he wasn't but if that's what one wants to believe against all the facts, so be it.

..read it off phone app, mm understands the ballsiness of it, seems he wants 2 proper rucks.. ..hammer was playing magoos then got injured but has been training well for 3 weeks..

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Hampson has been training for the last 3 weeks.

He has done plenty of miles in his legs.

Can last 4 quarters on the field and Bolt couldnt

MM has thrown up his name....as a long shot...if a KP or ruck went down.

Kreuzer 50/50

Waite ????? he didnt look too good when he marked that stray ball from Robbo for his winning goal
Jammo's shoulders should hang in there...well that's all they're doing and he's getting through.
Hendo looks good to go
McInnes imo is out of form but the best available of White, Laidler and Duigan...hang on...Duigan!!!

Casboult and Hampson are in line.....give me Hampson in the last quarter just for the 1%ers.
I love Levi, so I'd be happy with him at FF...standing on the goal line and leading to the top of the square...goal square that is.

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ridiculous way to manage someones career ie what is their trade value.....savings wont make you wealthy

key question? does the club want him? = yes (bad luck teague). opportunity = continue to invest in the big fella and get more and more out of him! a guy with his size wont be going anywhere

Incidentally, for anyone interested the Storm are playing at ANZ the night before this game. I know it's a rival code and all, but come on, it's the @#$%&! STORM!

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#GUILTY

This is my new favorite word. Does it mean fornicating with a faun?

as a ruckman Kruezer is 2nd to none when it comes to follow up work at stoppages and overall his 1% ,s are very good, i just dont know why he misses marks he should take , averages over his career about 2.5 marks per game. just not enough to be anywhere near an elite footballer

Not a lot giving us a chance.

Just like last week.

Expect the worst, and be delighted with the best.

Kreuz is turning 25 next year.....he'll peak in about 4 years... drool drool....a keeper I would have thought.

Back to business...if he doesn't come up, it's gotta be Levi. Pinch hits well. 206 has a better tank than given credit and will run out this game.

When Levi goes forward he must either lead up to the wing or be chained to the goal square. No in the middle of these two options.

If Brock is ready, Andy McInnes goes.

..nature of the position/role, rucks are not marking players..

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maybe so but what about when he goes forward? surely he could clunk a few more.

You do hear the Kroooooz call quite a bit when he has the sit but he doesn't pluck a lot of them. I often think the chant is putting him off.

I think opposition know how to shift him when he is going for a mark and his marking style is pretty one dimensional. Gets to where he thinks its going to land and then jumps straight up with straight arms. No launching into packs or anything like that.
Might need some re training.

Not a knock on his overall game. Just his marking.

yup. seems to be his body positioning a lot of the time, i believe the right coaching and he will get much better and then become an elite player.

Jesus Christ is Hampson really a chance?

..not a great mark no, was just more talking in regards to mark averages.. ..it's a misleading stat at times, mids will have more mark KPFs more often than not in regards to the stat, rucks are often the instigators of a possession chain, vs being the end.. ..to get a better idea of how a ruck is going in regards to marks, best checking him alongside his peers.. ..but i think his biggest flaw in marking, is that he doesn't protect the drop of the ball.. ..whether standing and wrestling, or jumping for it.... ..he lets his opponent get in close to spoil, many good marks dont allow that..

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..slim chance.. ..MM is "hopeful" that Krooz will be ok to go, being managed [for all that can help].. ....must still be delirious after the win, cos am warming up to the idea of Hammer in a final [is it his first?].. ..looking at the swans' rucks, none of them are leapers and Hammer can certainly get up there.. ..and certainly has them all easily covered in regards to pace..

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I think Mick's messing with Longmire's head.

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Surely Levi's got better chance than Hammer if Kruzer doesn't come up?

Spot on. He really is over rated by our supporters. Has a lot of potential, but imo it's becoming less and less likely that he'll fulfill it.
I remember maybe 4 or 5 games he's played where you just think he's going to be a star, but sadly we haven't seen one for a while.

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