Never a recruiter. Worked in the football department in development and a couple of other things. Coached QLD U/18s for 2 seasons in 98/99. Also coached QLD U/17 development squad.

Part Time until end of 2001 when I left to pursue growing business interests which I enjoy today.

Never had a desire to work full time at a football club and still don't. Now just a loyal supporter and sponsor.

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Good post Mrs C agree with your observations
Too many gratuitous attacks in here on other posters

Agree with this.

Enough of this bullshit.

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Hasn't this thread come to a grinding halt?

Let's get some things out of the way:

1. Some think that everything the club has done and is going to do is doomed to failure.
2. Some think that the club has made mistakes but is trying to correct itself to get back on track.
3. Some think that the club can do no wrong and everything is playing out for a designed purpose.


Now that that's out of the way, what are we going to do with our List Management?

Does this mean when Keogh gives us something Mr cazz won't bag him and post derogatory photos ?
Or this doesn't apply to Mr cazz just everybody else?
And are we still allowed to post our concerns on here ?

Just checking......

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My concern is that if 6 new draftees come into the club at the end of this season 4 of them will eventually turn out to be duds.
I'd actually like to know how the performance of the recruiting department is measured.

we should still be playing games at Princess Park!!

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Got to love the stare Down by Setanta on Llyod

Anyone want to persist with the "we should've taken Daniel Rich" debate...?

You know this as fact? We'll have a 33% hit rate?
So only 1 of Menzel, Graham, Temay and Cachia will work out from last year. Is that right?

We have a new coach that will have some influence upon who he wants.
We have a relatively new football operations manager in McKay who really only this year has the ability to exert influence on our List Management.
We have a new head recruiter in his second year.
We have a new addition to our recruiting department this year.

......................but things will be the same? How do you know this?

Based on history we go at 33%, 1 hit, 2 miss.

It means:

Doesn't matter who's doing it.

Concerns are welcome, but attacking individuals on this board isn't.


Back to scheduled programming...

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Apparently been talking to sylvia and watts for a while now, mind you sen is the source.

So that's the way it's going to be then? For ever?....................and ever?

Keeping the discussion to the footballing department, a lot has changed in recent times.

McKay is the new Operations manager.
Rogers is the new Head Recruiter.
Williams is a new recruiter.
Malthouse is the new coach.
We'll have new coaches this year.
Buttifant looks likely to be the new HPM.

There have been a lot of changes but things on the footballing side of things will stay the same?
It may better and it may be worse but it's a flawed way of thinking that things will stay the same, because they just don't.

Icke was a new operations manager
Hughes was a head recruiter
Rogers was a new recruiter
Ratten was a new coach
We got new coaches
Cordy was the new HPH

Plenty of changes over the last 10 years but we are still average in a lot of areas.
When we get somone at the top who knows how to run an organisation then things will start to filter through, until then we are just shuffling chairs around.

Yet we attack all and sundry whereas your argument seems to imply with anew head the others might do a far better job?

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

So that's it then. We're destined to be a perennial MOR side that warrants throwing rotten tomatoes at?

If I knew that was the case I'd probably pack up and find other interests.
Maybe those that think this will be the case should do exactly that because whining on a forum isn't proving anything to anyone......................oh well, maybe to one person.

Each to there own I suppose. I have only little bits to judge the leadership of our club.
The latest example we all received was at the Presidents Dinner Carlton v Essendon* ....... your good blokes, good luck and by the way you did not kill anyone.
What I see in stark contrast is Colless and Cook, it is no coincidence that they are from Sydney and Geelong.

I agree with you but that's not the footballing nor recruiting department.

Of course we have to be strong at the top (which we're not) but we also have to also be strong elsewhere.

Not sure that Malthouse will allow himself or his objectives to be pushed aside the way it may have happened before.

Who knows, the tail may just start wagging the dog.

A new head (with the appropriate credentials) will make better decisions and will LEAD.

When that happens the rest will fall into place.

starts with a full independent review of the whole club from top to bottom.

we keep making mistaels with staffers cos we keep doing the same things

we wont realise were making these mistakes till we have it spelt out to us

i wonder if we had a full independent review of the whole footy club what aspects of the club would survive the reviews blowtorch?
president?
board?
coaches?
development?
recruiting?
players?
membership people?
medical dept?
conditioning people?


i reckon wed faail the whole lot.

and we keep making the same mistakes...

as woof says we have restructured and restructured.. but those doing the restructuring now are the same people that did it in the past... you can expect the results to be the same....

they dont have the BALLS to do the right thing and have themselves Xrayed and asessed...

its obvious they dont.. from top to bottom..!!!

noone is at fault... its ust bad luck!!!

coaches come .. coaches go.. players come players go....

it doesnt matter!!!!

We have no idea what were doing.. and we dont wanna face that

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