The issue is we are followers and not leaders. Geelong and Sydney are the absolute minimum standard we should be aspiring.

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You're the perfect reflection of our supporter base. Anyone from the club would shake their head and wonder what's wrong with our supporters.

Anyone who thinks Callum Sinclair is more aggressive than Kreuzer is just asking to be laughed at.

this is going well...

Geelong weren't leaders until 2007................44 years between premierships.
Sydney weren't leaders until 2005.................72 years between premierships.

We've fallen behind without question and every team can go back to a time when things didn't go their way and we've had our time.
The real question is "Are we doing something about it now"?
There will be a Premier and a Wooden-Spooner in every given year and every team is endeavouring to do exactly what we're wanting to do.

Our arrogance still abounds though when we think it our right to have the "best in the league" in every nook and cranny at the CFC.
We should though, as with any good business, have reviews that consider every aspect of the operation. No-one and nothing excluded. Not sure we have that, which isn't really a good thing.

his responses are 10 year old.s......

The problem with Cazz and Gilly and Co... is they cannot win this argument...!!!.. no matter which way they go..
So just amuse me when engaging...!!!
Were not having a rebuild after one elim finals win to our name after an UNPRECEDENTED number of early picks and the side chok-a-block full of rookie drafted footballers....

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Amusing to try and apply TC behaviour to the real world.

Using this logic half the people on this site would have been bashed within an inch of their lives for some of the taunting, bullying and abuse but on here they are macho men.

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no i dont think if you were wrong youd know it... wanna know why??

cos u dont know it......

We cannot turn a bind eye on crimes against this footy club from top to bottom...!!!
We need an indie review....

noone spared!!!

wont have one??
... i know.. cos the perpeTRAITORS from top to bottom dont like reviews!!!... they dont like criticism... they want to be left alone to fix this.....!!!...

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That is so generalised it's ridiculous. As a member it's a bit like being a shareholder of a company. We are well entitled to have an opinion on our club.

Personally I am frustrated and angry. Have been for a while. We are pathetic in so many areas.

Why is it a poor reflection to want success?

Synners is right. It starts at the top.

The difference in all this discussion is that Cazz is a "representative" of the club. His comments and replies are immature, offensive and just something that shouldn't be put in writing on an internet forum. Does nothing positive to the image of the club and its people.

The fact is I want answers and how we are going to fix our problems. Simple. As a member and supporter we are entitled to know.

I am sure that Swann and the board would not be supportive of his responses.

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Some fair points

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.....any way back to the topic.
For me I think these guys are goners

19 Eddie Betts - FA
16 Andrew Collins was delisted then beought back with our last pick I believe too many injuries.
34 Nick Duigan - 1 game and got games as an emergency, was underrated in his first year but now is a ghost of his former self. Why do have so many players show potential only get injured and lose there mojo. Poor list management rushing them back only to wreck there body's ?.
45 Aaron Joseph - been good against Rioli and Jetta but that's about it.
15 Jeremy Laidler - Too slow and probably another example of rushing players back only to wreck them.
20 Rhys Okeefe - Too many injuries can't see how he could retain a spot.
25 Luke Mitchel - The great white hope. Was supposed to be our spine but from I understand has shown nothing much. Maybe given another year but I doubt it.

That's 7 possible delistings.

Then we have trade bait....
Warnock/Hampson what do we get for it.

I'm really unsure of what Mick will be planning as far as trades though.
We shall find out in trade and draft periods.

Probably not saying anything new here.

Any feel free to play around, add or what everybody else does on here and completely disagree.

Collins wasn't actually de-listed. He had a three year contract with us.

You can't start a list of goners without having Davies at the head of the pack. Couldn't possibly get another contract.

I hope Betts isn't gone.

Davies can be added.

... because everything is just peachy down at the club?

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Reckon Mitchell might be given one more year, possibly as a rookie.
Reason being that in reality, while he's been on our list for 3 years, his first 2 pre seasons and in fact, seasons in general, were wrecked by injury.

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You know what, if he trained flat out, did all the extras and gave the impression that he'd do anything to succeed, I'd possibly agree.
Unfortunately I get the feeling he wants it to come easy. If that's the case and I hope I'm not doing him an injustice, I'd rather give the spot to someone who wants it more.

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I think everyone is getting a little precious here, my guess is Cazz posts in here for the same reasons we all do, he's a staunch supporter of the CFC and enjoys the camaraderie (LOL). Remember this is just one of many CFC supporter forums on the internet and has no official status with CFC.

If people really think Caz should be posting here as a Club rep then I suggest we create a new "official" account for him where he can post as an official and we can deal with him as such (although why would he take on such a responsibility when he will get nothing from it but puerile abuse?).

In the meantime perhaps a simple disclaimer in your footer Cazz along the lines of "The views expressed on this forum are my own and do not necessarily reflect the views of my employer"? Then we are all clear where everyone stands.

That's not the case BV or at least not until the half-way point of this season.
The kid has been terrific over the past couple of years but his confidence now seems to be well and truly shot.

I didn't think I'd be saying this 20 months ago but I just can't see him being retained post 2013.

How about this disclaimer.....

As a Carlton supporter and 15yr poster on TC and TBV I use to get bent out of shape by blowhard verbose posters with over-rated opinions of their own importance (including myself ) but times change and now they just make me laugh and want to post pictures.

Life's too short to be bitter and twisted. Turn that frown upside down all you dearly depressed.

Regards Cazzesman

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