Luke Williams isnt anyone super important to Geelong.. if he was important... he would have been signed up till seasons end.....
People like Cookie dont have guys unsigned so they can walk mid season with half a seasons paid work by their forer clubs....
Unless you can tell us which of the Geelong young guns he was responsible for...???...

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Why is you and psycho can claim to know anything about these people and what drives them. Both you and psycho are just downright disrespectful to people you know nothing about. To suggest Cook wouldn't have let him go if he was any good is poor form.

Perhaps the fact that Luke was held in such high regard during his long tenure at Geelong meant they were respectful when he requested he be let go.

Regards Cazzesman

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Not what I've heard about Williams and that's coming from Geelong people.

Cookie let Thompson slip by him.
I have a lot of time for Cooke and wish he was our CEO, but no-one has control over everyone.

O.K. so Williams is now a dud. Who should have we got and why and how would you know?

I find it alarming that we only seem to hire people who are no good.
Shouldn't we have some proces. Shouldn't we speak to and listen to experts.

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Luckily for us we have a few on here

Got it the first time, Moshe.
You're on fire!

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The only people that would know what Williams was like is Geelong.
And Geelong didnt have him in a contract....!!!

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I'm just interested because I really don't know Williams.
What I do know though was that Williams was widely respected within the Geelong camp.

Of course that may change as things do, but I felt nothing but pain emanating from the club and for those that know well of Williams.

maybe it's just a small industry/community and not as cut-throat as the conspiracy theorists would have you believe.....maybe LW is a likable guy and had enough brownie points and respect that neither SW nor the club wanted to stand in his way or cause problems ..of course it's difficult to lay the foundation of fantasy with the most parsimonious accounts

So what! Contract or not it has nothing to do with what Williams was thought of. You would be surprised how many recruiters and 2IC's aren't on contracts at all or are on 1 year at a time. When any business excepts that an employee has been a top performed and loyal servant for an extended period of time they won't necessarily stand in his way if he decides to move on.

Regards Cazzesman

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Harker... my point is this.

They the Geelong footy club didnt bother to put him on a contract till the end of the year.
In every organisation the vital cogs are all contracted. This guy left mid season with intelli gnece paid for by the Geelong footy club....
Obviously that can always be a reaity if you dont contract someone.... but im sure the major players they need are all contracted....
He was uncontracted and we offered more...!!!...

Thats fair enough.. i hope he earnt enough under Wells that he can go on and become a great recruiter for us

But the truth is.... his drafting list in raning players over time... would be inhouse.. and Cooke and Co would know how close to the pin the guy is...
We wouldnt know... nobody but they would.. unless they told us.. in which case they didnt try very hard to keep him or match our offer...

Now if we had picked up WELLS... that would be different..!!!

Sure they liked him... and he was a good guy.... lots of Good blokes in footy... not too many absolute cutting edge ones though....

Good luck to him... but no runs on the board yet...!!!.. hardly 'awesomeness' that Kouta is telling us it is....

Kouta wouldnt have the foggiest...!!!.. either would i... but Cooke would.. they can match us for cash!!!.. and exceed by whatever they want to pay...

Were not that well off as people think...

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So what! Contract or not it has nothing to do with what Williams was thought of. You would be surprised how many recruiters and 2IC's aren't on contracts at all or are on 1 year at a time. When any business excepts that an employee has been a top performed and loyal servant for an extended period of time they won't necessarily stand in his way if he decides to move on.

Regards Cazzesman

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id be surprised??

is that what we do???

have key people not on contracts??.. oh ok!!!...carry on...!!!....
People can just come along and pinch a KEY guy who we have paid to send all over the country and listen in on drafting meetings???

Just about explains things doesnt it???

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Assistant coaches are always afforded the ability to move into a senior coaching job should the opportunity present.

A good employer will always listen to their people and if situations arise that some ask to move on then that request should be considered with respect.

Whichever way though the thrust of what is being alluded to here is that Williams is no big deal. If so, why? Because he wasn't contracted...............Come on.

only one cub would know williams work... geelong
they would have been checking his rating of players from each draft and kept that on file...
oh and as for us being good judges of people to recruit to the club... take a look around this place and ask yourself one question.
Which area do we have personel that lead the way?

If your answer is "no areas..".. thats my answer too!!!... i wanna know how this is a definite coup by the club...!!!
and is he below Hughes on the pecking order or above?
IS he 2IC or is Hughes nudging him out???

Do you know Gilly??... cos i know he isnt 1IC... so he isnt as great as Rogers is...!!...

Can you tell me???

please???

pretty please???

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Key people dont leave in the middle of the season... unless theyre kicked out...!!!.. or noone cares...!!

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Here you go smart-alec, I'll tell you one thing, and this is gold

There's no recruiters university.....if you can bring a bloke to your club with 14 years institutional memory and close to or over the 10,000 hour rule of experience to provide another set of experienced eyes on 5-6 games a week then you're not doing it wrong.

that's about the long and the short of it, and i don't get why you'd quibble over that.

take it to the bank!!!!!

I know that there is no recruiters university.... there are good recruiters and our recruiters..
We havent had good luck in that dept have we???

But you cant prove to me with all that.. that Williams isnt a coup ...!!!.. and i cant prove he is.

What we both know is that Geelong didnt even bother tying him down to the end of the season... and wished him all the best at Carlton...

Could make it to the Carrazzo standard of recruiters....

BUT he wasnt WELLS was he???(Ablett)

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I don't know how people can still be smug on the back of the last two seasons. Is our performance simply down to tough luck?

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