Scotland a calf according to Larkins.

Fair point about us playing well after a bagging, but wont that be balanced out by the fact that we usually fail when everything is on the line?

Back a draw maybe.

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If Essendon* get the shaft, then the Bullants also get to play finals (probably).
Essendon* really are the gift that keeps on giving...

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2013-08-26/blues-look-to-improve-goalkicking

No sheit........

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I'm in a similar boat except I havent lost the child in me yet....I love watching the Bluebaggers win or lose because I love watching them....love it when they win, which they should this weekend.

Good luck to the Blueboy family and all the Bluebaggers in SA.

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

I would pick the same 22 (bar McLean obviously) and just say show us you give a sh!t

......and we might take it into consideration when we're slicing and dicing our list

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Carlton - Nothing's changed
I still love you, oh, I still love you
Only slightly, only slightly less
Than I used to, my love

How many times can we say "show us you give a shit"?
Seems to be every 2nd week or so. Just a disappointing group, mentally.

I think we have clearly established they don't give a shit. At the end of the day, they haven't murdered anyone, so let's ease up on them.

It may be a little thing ... but this group doesnt even train in the rain ... fragile?

mcInnes jamison armfield
walker waite simpson
tuohy robinson yarran
garlett henderson lucas
betts casboult menzel
kreuzer murphy gibbs
graham curnow scotland bell[sub]

duigan, warnock and joseph omitted.
mclean injured.
we win this, come up against the tigers in the first week of the finals,
how good would it be to knock them out!!!!!!!
maybe i am dreaming......

..wouldn't go as far as that, there are definitely some players you'd feel comfortable in the trenches with.. ..we just don't have enough of these to field a strong seasoned team, yet.. ..over next couple of yrs we'll phase them out..

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..if you can't be good, be good at it..

Your boy is you 25 years ago. Me fifty years ago. My dad 80 years ago. He and his dreams and highlights and ladder predictors and joy and sadness are what makes clubs like Carlton great clubs. Every team has them and needs them. He's just the right age to see the next era unfold before his eyes just as you were and I was and my dad was. It's a once in a generation thing it seems with Carlton. You're lucky he's interested. My kids aren't. I think I put them off by being so moody when they lost back then but that doesn't matter now.

I hope you enjoy the game and he does too, win or lose. Out of a loss come individual highlights he can cherish. A Warnock pack mark would be a lifetime memory. (for Warnock, not your son ). My greatest memories of my dad involve our weekly trips to PP and the feverish discussions on the tram home afterwards and the fights with mum about the replay versus Young Talent Time on TV. If we win, tell him he's just seen the start of the big turnaround and will be able to remember it all his life. If we lose, tell him it doesn't matter because when you go next year we're gonna smash them and he will have his new beanie to remember it by. Then sit down with him with the list and give him a big red texta and the footy record and try and second guess the de-listings. You can make the footy season last forever with a young boy like me or you or him. But I'm sure you already know all that. Cut me some slack. I'm just reliving a bit of my childhood through your post...

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Let slip the Blues of war (with apologies to William Shakespeare) (and Sir Francis Bacon, just in case)

Bit late now, havent we heard this before?

Thanks Bondi and BS.

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Can't play Waite back, he was awful on Saturday and if dragged back to the square, very vulnerable. Need to play him fwd, if we play him. Bell was good last week, long way to go but may be an option for the big bodied mid we so desperately need, pity he hasn't got Hocking-like mongrel. Curnow has been terrfifc this year as has Simmo, but the fact that Simmo always goes on to his left makes his kicking too predictable and gives the oppo extra time to cover. Robbo has been dreadful and two brain fades - downfield kick and stupid marking attempt when Levi marked in the sq cost us two goals. He has gone backwards so far this year it is astonishing, kamikaze courage and mongrel are desperately needed at the Blues but Robbo's deficits are well ahead of his positives now. Menzel looks classy and Graham looks like a promising mid. Mcinness is another hbf but has a bit of mongrel and looks like a solid type. Like many I don't care much re this game. Part of me wants us to lose so there is nothing to hold up from the season. We are too good at finding positives to obscure where we are actually at, tho the remote possibility of sneaking in to the the finals and knocking off the Woods would be good.

Hard to understand why Murph was made captain, surely in a side with virtually no leadership Carrazzo should have been a stop gap until a leader emerged. Simmo is great onfield but not sure he has a captain's personality. Yarran was good last week and certainly hard at it. Gibbs continues to frustrate and always will. Those of us who witnessed his short step with Milne back in his first year hoped it might be an aberration but it proved to be a character trait and its hard to believe it didn't surface at underage footy. Gibbs will continue to be a classy good player and never a great one despite his elite talent. Selwood, Boak, Leunberger, retrospective drafting is very easy and depressing. What premium did our recruiters place on toughness and leadership. The only guy touted for leadership when drafted was Grigg !!!

Anyway hopefully our younger players will get a good go this week and a few in the 2s get a chance. See what promise we have, problem is that young players, if they make it, are 4-5 years from being consistent regular contributors by which case some of our better players Scotto, Judd, Simmo, Jammo, Walker, Betts, Waite will be gone, struggling or past their best, are the young players coming through better or as good as that group? If not how are we going to challenge, how is our list going to improve.

I used to have no idea what it was like to barrack for a second rate mediocre club with little light ahead, now I know. We are a vanilla team, like the Bombers in the 1970s.

If I was in Pt Adelaides shoes, I would treat this game as a rest before the finals, rest 'sore' players, and load up on fringe.

They have nothing to gain or lose, a hard game will not hold them in good stead for the first final.

We go hard they lie down.......... just sayin'

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"our electorate seeks less to be informed and more to be validated." Sad times.

[quote="gerry atric"]Bell was good last week, long way to go but may be an option for the big bodied mid we so desperately need, pity he hasn't got Hocking-like mongrel [quote]

Gee Gerry, Hocking must be one tough mother, Tommy hurts alot out there.

This could be a horrid week.

I've convinced myself it doesn't matter that the bombers get the flick from the finals and we won't get there.
Then the AFL will turf them getting my hopes up.
But then I'll pretend I don't care about the Port result because we'll get beat easily.
Then I'll get sucked in and watch while the Blues stay in a tough contest only to lose in the last few minutes.
I'll then go back to my safe " we are no hope to play finals place"
But wait anxiously as the Cats account for the Brions at SS.
Unfortunately the Brions will play out of their skins and I'll get sucked in to watching and just get pipped at the post. Phew!
I wake up Sunday morning telling myself "don't worry about Norf, if the win so be it, finals just weren't meant to be"
But during the day I'll start thinking of Sept and the possibility of beating the Tiggies and up go the hopes again. Aaargh

So late Sunday afternoon, I settle in to cheer for the Black and whites. Riding the highs and lows, every shanked kick and cheering for Didak like he was my own child!

Only to have the Roos kick the winner at around 4.00pm Perth time. Of course it will be by Harvey or Lindsay Thomas on or near the siren.
Roos in the finals, weekend cooked.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Saw some footage of training the other day & Carrazzo was out there - I thought he was done for the year?

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#DonTheStash

Yep, going in for an op this week.