Why didn't McInnes go up and remonstrate with the umpire ? He had given away a 50 already- explain his case. ie - one umpire said it was play on "touched".

Why didn't Jeff Garlett speak to the umpire about how he did kick it prior to it going over the goal line (in the first match)?

All these players play within their shell...

Carlton didn't deserve to win as they don't have enough leaders- I agree with your point....but part of being a leader is going up to the umpires at quarter time or half time and asking for clarification on certain issues. Standing up for your team.

Like Manly's Toovey in the rugby league - (where referee decisions were slanted towards Souths as they are a "romantic favourite") I have no doubt that Essendon* got at least 70% of the "rub of the green" umpiring decisions whether it was "head high" or something else as they are a "romantic favourite" who are "brave" and "courageous"...someone has to answer for the odd umpiring? surely?

. I thought it was amusing where Heath Scotland actually stopped his play waiting for the umpire's whistle for a head high. The umpire wasn't going to give it until he had to give it.



Watching drug cheats "beat" a team without the benefit of drugs... listening to Darcy discuss their "bravery" - surely there is just something really warped about this AFL season.

lol, haven't u got the idea yet? Everything is Mick's fault.

Let's continue to never make the players accountable for anything, that's how we got where we are today.

at least North are heading in the right direction

they actually have depth in their midfield

Yeah good comeback

I was gutted last night but thought I might feel better this morning. Nope, wrong. Normally, when players are cut at the end of the year I am very mindful that young men that I have cheered for have had their dream dashed. Well, I dream of my club returning to the position it occupied when I was growing up. The current occupants of Royal Parade have lost sight of what it means to be part of the Carlton Football Club. The only people who continue to carry that particular torch are we sad individuals, the supporters old enough to remember a time when the name Carlton would invoke loathing as well as grudging respect in the football community. Mediocrity was never acceptable. Now we are little more than a punch line or a cautionary tale. Come the time in a week or two when careers are ended, both on and off the field, I shall be less "nostalgic". And come the time that my membership renewal lands in my letter box I may be more frugal.

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To quote talking carlton last year " isn't it the coaches job to get the best out of the players? "

Verbs is my uncle.

Poor kicking is poor football and is a sign of the players lack of ability, and lack of leadership

Armfield misses the lot under no pressure because he is a seriously limited footballer. As Mick said last week Armfield needs to be given jobs because he lacks natural talent offensively. Lack of talent.

Betts and Gibbs usually good users and experienced players who need to step up and be leaders blow easy opportunities to seal the game. Betts didn't have to snap like that, could have stopped, turned around and slotted it. Gibbs misses almost dead in front 30m out. And he is a number one pick. Lack of leadership.

Mick has talked about leadership the last few weeks. Now you see why. Because as Synbad said they set the standard.

Seriously it is time to start over I think. Players like Murphy and Jamison and Walker who are around 25-26 need to be the oldest players. The odd exception is a Simpson who has heart and the skinny ones tend to be durable. The Judds and Waited and Scotlands and Carrazzos will never be Carlton premiership players. Not a complete rebuild but an acceptance the dials need to be re set.

Yes that means get the best out of them re effort and Mick has done that. We have been competitive in just about every game. Much more consistent effort this year. Look at all the close games. Ten more shots on goal last night. The effort was there but the lack of skill and natural lack of leadership cannot be fixed.

But he can't turn shit into gold.

Get it???

Mick can't win with clueless people like you

You blame him for not making players accountable but then you'll blame him for going overboard on the tagging

LOL

Clueless posters

The club needs to be gutted...!!!
Where is the independent review???

Ive been banging on about this for years.

it wont happen... so we will continue to be shit

The review will only be a tool to make deluded people see theyre crap!!!...

But they dont want to see it...

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Have a look at the list you idiots

So many unskilled hacks - Armfield, Duigan, Bell, Curnow, etc

Aging core - Scotland, Judd, Waite, Carrazzo, Simpson

Soft players - Warnock, Yarran, Garlett

Lack of true leadership

A FB with a ticking time bomb shoulder

Blue collar midfielders because we have neglected recruiting quality mids for years because we thought a couple of pick ones was enou , we didn't read the landscape and realize depth is needed in modern footy

Shit club
Shit recruitment

And stupid fans who think Mick is to blame for all this shit LOL

Couldn't agree more

Mick has been rubbish since he got to Carlton. Deep down you know this but you are having a bit of an Essendon* fan > Hird moment.

He needs to lift.

At least we have a new recruitment head and got Cats 2IC , recruitment of Graham was good, so hopefully that area has been fixed?

And we have Mick who has seen it all before and knows what is needed and will not be over powered by idiots at the top of the club, he will make the changes needed and will give Sticks etc a reality check on whe we are at

Mick won't see this through though cause it'll take years. He will set us up. Recruitment dept needs to get it right from here on. Not just at draft but also in terms of trades and FA, must make the right strategic moves. Thomas and Watts arguably not the right moves at least not in isolation. Thomas and a quality big bodied mid would be good but if all we get is Dale alone I'm not sure that is good enough.

Another clueless fan

Disagree on Judd. If he could play at least another two years then that will help our rebuild. Still one of our better players.

I agree with the others. In fact, if we can afford it, I would retire Waite. He has already consumed too much of our time with little reward.

And it needs to be a complete rebuild. We have too many weaknesses on our list.

Easy Shoog.

We will get worse before we get better

The list needs a complete turnover.

Biggest bunch of soft cocks in the afl.

The kids are talentless. There is no depth.

We need to burn the place down and rebuild.

GCS and GWS will both win premierships before us.

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Reckon Mick would replace half the list if he could.
Could tell that he was mighty pissed off at the presser.
He's overestimated a lot of things about our list (ability to follow instructions, skill level, leadership)

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