How the @#$%&! is our list better this year than last year.

Yawn!

He's typical of many here who just criticize and have no idea. I am happy to be criticized by anybody who would like to debate. That's the beauty of this site but there are far to may who just use the garthp: smiley or whatever to cover their inadequacies. Like Tigger.

I tried to explain MM's game plan in response to a sensible question from one of the few posters here who seems to be a rational thinker. My concept may be right or wrong but one thing is for sure, Tigger hasn't got a clue or he'd have done what I did and tried his hand at it.

Weak.

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..i don't think MM's gameplan is out-dated at all.. .it's been tweaked, it will get tweaked on a continual basis, just like it always has been throughout his entire career.. ..yes he plays wide, because the corridor is high-risk high-reward.. ..we don't have the cattle for that.. ..not enough good kicks, not enough good kicks/handballs under pressure, not enough run and spread, nowhere near enough defensive running to bottle up a turnover.. ..and looking ahead, we've got almost 10 'kids' that will become more regular parts of the team, so we have right now an unbalanced list in regards to experience..

..geelong are held up as the virtues of exciting hard attacking football, and MM's gameplan has broken them more than they've been broken by them.. ..most teams don't use the press these days to fanatical extremes, but Freo still use a gameplan thats as old as MM's, and they're going very well indeed.. ..everyone knows exactly how to unravel the Rossy gameplan, but his team's buy-in is so impressive that knowing how to undo it, and then being able to unlock freo, is extremely difficult.. ..and they've had an unsettled, 3/4 strength team for the entire season..

..hawks have a chip chip short kicking gameplan, everyone knows they can be beaten by speed on the outside.. ..and yet they've been bonafide flag contenders for 3 seasons straight.. ..2011 lost to MM in 'that' prelim.. ..2012 swans matched their hardness, and then got them on the outside.. ..but for all the swans run and dash from the stoppage 'slingshot' style, if you watch them play they still will run wide more often than straight down the middle.. ..they attack, but always with a defensive angle..

..gameplans need not be brand shiney new, they just need all players [seniors and ressies] understanding exactly what must be done, and all of them committing to it.. ..it takes strong trust in team mates.. ..and obviously a good run with injuries and a good balance between hardened experience and vibrant youth..

..i will say this, MM has gone a bit away from his zoning, and it playing a bit more 'finals style' one on one footy, which i think is best for a team such as ours.. ..we need to learn and become experienced with winning individual contests all over the ground.. ..go thru MM's good teams and you'll find plenty of players that would run and carry..

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That's about the size of it. It doesn't matter why we gave Malthouse the job, we are what we are and he is what he is. For me (in terms of how we should handle the list post season) the only difference from the way I want us to go and the 'realist' approach to where we are at and what we need, is a try for Boyd. Apart from that, we should be under no illusions as to where we are at and how deep the list cuts should go.

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Game plan looked OK after quarter time last week when Mick told the players they were getting sucked in

How do you know what Mick told the players?

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One thing I like about Malthouse ... and it's purely a perception ... and I have no idea if Ratten and his team did the same thing ...
is that players are sent back to the twos and told that they have to specifically fix something before they'll be picked again.

Apparently Casboult was told that he wasn't running enough and so had to really work a lot harder.
Not sure what Robbo was told, but he was as valuable to the team against Richmond as I've seen him.

Love to know what the message to Lucas was. He's had a pretty good year really, but I suspect Mick's not happy with something.
Might be tackling, might be something else.

Almost sounds like player development.

Don't know what was said but from reports it seems Lucas didn't work on anything last weekend.

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How do you know that? Maybe he was told to work on being more relaxed, not getting injured, and kicking like shit.

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Gee I hope that's the case Kev.

...and deep down I believe it is.
Only thing that sort of worries me is how the players take it.
Gen Y New age thing...not saying all Gen Y's are precious...just haven't met any who.....

HTFU...soft cocks dont play well in Aussie Rules GF's....any level

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Was it only me or did anyone else think that players used the middle more on Saturday?

When the players decide to run and support that is definitely the case, but if they do not ,the player has no choice but to kick it long to a contest.

Robbo was told to keep his feet in contests............... This is what he had to work on in the VFL.

Most know I give credit were it's due and Malthouse does "rotate" the list well. Always has.
He believes in creating depth through the list and you do that by playing players in the VFL and AFL as much as possible.
He believes by keeping players in the VFL for too long, they lose pace of the game, etc and then aren't ready if needed.
If you rotate them they keep working on deficiencies and keep up with the AFL tempo and are ready to step in at any time.
He has done that well this year with our peripheral players or players he believes are "depth players".

Nice post, SB.

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I have "fond" memories of the number of times young players would come into the Collingwood seniors and immediately looked like they belonged.

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..i reckon we'll be seeing plenty of it over the next few years as well as we get more youth into the system..

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