We need more extroverts.

Interesting that many here opted Gibbs up high, yet the coaches don't. I reckon Deledios impact was overrated

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Interesting. IMO, Hardwick gave Lids 3 votes. In fact, my guess is they were distributed as below, given the totals:

MALTHOUSE

5. McLean
4. Simpson
3. Curnow
2. Walker
1. Robinson


HARDWICK

5. Robinson
4. McLean
3. DeLidio
2. Walker
1. Simpson






HARDWICK
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I thought Bolt would sneak a vote. Had a huge influence on the result.

Barely noticed "lids" tbh

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I was surprised to read he had it 29 times.
His gut running late in the game was pretty good.

He's a gun.

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Nice try.
Not only did I tip us to win, I've also constantly stated the list has the quality to be a finals contender if they can play to their strengths.
While you and your mates have been sitting back sniping the players, I kept faith in them.
You must be bleeding you cant can the players for another 7 days? What will you do for the week?

They just need Mick to stop trying to stamp his authority on the team and let them play to their strengths.
A good result all round.

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This is why I enjoy reading your posts BV. Bravo.
You also keep your focus when replying ...... compared to me.

..who wants to be a finals contender though..?.. ..seriously, if you're not a real, regular flag contender, playing finals is fun but bittersweet cos you know yer no real chance.. ..don't wanna be like laidley's roo's or eade's dogs, where you play finals for no threat.. ..they even used to make top 4, but they were never truely in the race.. ..our list played to its strengths wasn't flag worthy.. ..it's been corrected, and will still use some of its strengths but in a much better way.. ..never gonna win a flag unless you can play finals footy week in week out.. ..even our best yr of 2011 we didnt play finals footy, couldn't string more than a few wins together, how the hell you gonna go deep into the finals without winning more than a few games in a row thru the season, every season for a decade..

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Good post BV - I don't think it is coincidental that in both this season and the last whilst both disappointing in terms of results we played our best footy when we elected to go with youth ie casboult bell etc - need to be constantly finding blooding and exposing kids to senior football particularly when existing senior side continues to come up short in both winnable games and against better sides

The disgrace that was the early game against Aints and game against dogs cost us a finals spot -let alone first match against tigers and abominable lack of grit and ability to hang onto a lead against Essendon*

Turnover of list should be savage at the end of the year a lot of dead wood at back end of senior list - need more kids and unlike last exchange/draft period - need some adroit trading - no excuses about money contracts etc this time

I thought it was a significant win on Saturday - given we hadn't apart from port beaten a top 8 side - started horribly didn't drop their bundle and like a good side ground away to win

This.
Whenever I read through the arguments on TC,
I just have to stop and imagine how Hawthorn, Sydney, and Geelong fans must be pissing themselves laughing at our petty issues.

We NEED to play finals for 6 years in a row.
We NEED to be top 4 for at least 4 to 5 years in a row.
We NEED at least one flag from that top 4 period
Sticks has the right goal,
He just has dubious plans on how to get there.


Really enjoyed the game on Saturday,
but won't be getting carried away.

Yes, I see you've been steadfast in your views in our previous finals campaigns.

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The reasons I hate Ty Vickery

1. His stupid hair string holding his dreads that he keeps adjusting
2. The way he gives "high 10" whenever he kicks a goal while jumping in the air.
3. KB thinks he's Royce Hart and Michael Roach rolled into 1
4. He always seems to be on the right side of stupid free kicks eg him jumping to "spoil" from 5m away while cannoning into Simpson who was running forward and getting a shepherding free and his 50m against Robbo
5. He scored 3 goals 3 times this year, twice against us. He scored 0 or 1 15 times but is considered to be a good player.

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Are they the same Hawthorn supporters who saw their team win a flag after 1 year of finals appearances in the previous seven years?

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Imagine if "Thyril" had kicked that last goal.

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..and yet, in all of that you glossed over the bit where i said "regardless, it's more how we play footy that's more the concern for mine".. ....ultimately, playing finals footy, and playing footy in the finals isn't the same thing.. ..do i think we Might miss finals due to injuries?, no.. ..do i think we might due to coaching?, yes.. ..but not because of bad coaching, but due to corrective coaching.. ..for years we played on talent, with no discernible system that held up to pressure, or was even regularly adhered to, win or lose.. ..now, with so much of the talent on a decline, Judd [being massive for us recently], Snotland who can still play well getting the ball and running and helping support, but his kicking isnt what it used to be.. ..Carrots likewise, and Murph injured 2 seasons in a row [not declining though, injured]..

..now, that doesn't sound too bad, but when you play on talent and no system,, it is bad.. ..this year i think our list should have made finals, yes.. ..but making finals isn't enough.. ..we want to be a flag threat, so younger players needed to get their chances, which they have.. ..an actual gameplan, with recognised structures and understood systems needed to be implemented.. ..defensive accountability is still the struggle to instill.. ..real, honest two-way running.. ..disciplined team footy instead of flashy selfishness.. ..unearthing new leaders, etc etc.. ..we're coming from a long way back, and yes we could eke out a shallow finals foray this year and the coming few, or we could retreat a little and sort out everything we all see and agree needs sorting out.. ..i dont think anyone was truely beliving we could have been a legitimate repeat flag contender.. .at best, if everything went right, we might have fluked one.. ..maybe.... hopefully..

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I'm not saying that you can't win a flag straight off the bat !
I just want to be at the top and be consistent for a sustained period!

Is that too much to hope for ?


EDIT - Actually when I reread what I had quoted, it wasn't exactly the same as the point I was trying to make.

The point is - we need to get back up there and stay up there.
I genuinely hope Mick can kickstart that process

..yes.. ..and they're still pinching themselves, and it's still often referred to as the 'bradbury'.. ..now, we'll take 'em any way we can get 'em, but everyone said even after they won that it was 'before schedule', and a surprise.. ..and yet for the dynasty, it's still the only one.. ..they are more exception than rule..

..edit - also of note, were the 2 rule changes after that flag that have 'hindered' some of the dawks play and style as well..

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That's easy BV...read a selection of your previous (personal) posts on MM and delight in the hypocracy

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