FWIW, not a single Carlton player features in the Under-23 All-Australian team

(not even in the "desperately unlucky" bit)

Thank !@#$%& you have no say in our recruiting/trading RSM.

Jesse White has played 4 good games in his AFL career. To suggest we should sway him for a 22 year old Yarran is farcical IMO.
As for not needing Betts, lets see if Buckley can actually get a game before throwing away our most consistent forward of the past 5 years.

I did a little exercise. I looked at the players at each club (except the two news clubs) to see what their young stocks were like, and to compare them to ours. I picked a random cut off of being 23 years of age as of today (7 Aug). That is, if they turned 24 yesterday, they didn't make the list. Close cut offs at Carlton were Kreuzer, Garlett and Laidler. There were plenty at other clubs, obviously.

I've put the list in club ladder order. I've picked out 5 who I think are or are among the best of each club (in red), then listed significant others. I know more about the kids at some clubs than others (interstate clubs I haven't seen play a lot), so you may have different (and more accurate) assessments of each club's kids, but that wasn't really the point of the exercise. It was more to get an idea of what each club has coming through, how it's going to be placed in 5 years, whether there are a core of kids to build a club around. Quite frankly, for us, it makes depressing reading. Every club above us, and many below, have significantly better kids on their list than we do. Not good when you're currently sitting 9th on the ladder...


Hawthorn

Breust (22)
Gunston (21)
Hill (20)
Savage (22)
Whitecross (23)

Shiels (22)
Duryea (22)
Schoenmakers (22)
Anderson (19)

Sydney

Hannebery (22)
Mitchell (20)
Reid (21)
Rohan (22)
Johnson (21)

Rampe (23)
Lamb (20)
Parker (20)
B Jack (19)

Geelong

Christensen (22)
Motlop (22)
Duncan (22)
Smedts (21)
T Hunt (22)

Vardy (22)
Caddy (20)
Guthrie (20)
Horlin-Smith (20)
Blicavs (22)
Menzel (21)
Murdoch (21)
Schroder (20)
Stringer (22)
Thurlow (19)

Fremantle

Fyfe (21)
Hill (23)
De Boer (23)
Walters (22)
Clarke (23)

Morabito (21)
Neale (20)
C Pearce (22)
Suban (23)
Hannath (22)

Essendon**

Zaharakis (23)
Carlisle (21)
Heppell (21)
Hibberd (23)
Hurley (23)

Daniher (19)
Melksham (21)
Kommer (22)
Pears (23)
Colyer (21)
Dell’Olio (23)

Collingwood

Beams (23)
Sidebottom (22)
Blair (23)
Elliott (20)
Fasolo (21)

Seedsman (21)
Sinclair (21)
Grundy (19)
Keeffe (23)
Kennedy (19)
Mooney (20)
J Thomas (21)
Williams (20)

Richmond

Cotchin (23)
Martin (22)
Rance (23)
Vlastuin (19)
Grimes (22)

Astbury (22)
Batchelor (21)
Conca (20)
Dea (21)
Ellis (20)
Helbig (21)
Vickery (23)

Port

Hartlett (22)
Wingard (20)
Wines (19)
Broadbent (23)
Ebert (23)

Butcher (22)
Hitchcock (23)
Jonas (22)
Mitchell (23)
Moore (22)
Neade (19)
O’Shea (21)
Pittard (22)
Redden (22)
Shaw (19)
Trengove (22)

Carlton

Henderson (23)
Tuohy (23)
McInnes (21)
Bootsma (20)
Yarran (22)

Menzel (18)
Curnow (23)
Lucas (22)
Bell (22)
Graham (19)
Buckley (20)
Cachia (22)
Casboult (23)
Dale (20)
Davies (22)
McCarthy (21)
Mitchell (21)
O’Keeffe (23)
Temay (19)
Watson (21)

North

Ziebell (22)
Atley (20)
Bastinac (22)
Black (22)
Cunnington (22)

Mullett (21)
Daw (22)
Harper (21)
Hine (21)
Jacobs (21)
Macmillan (20)
Wright (23)

West Coast

Darling (21)
Naitanui (23)
Gaff (21)
Shuey (23)
S Selwood (23)

Smith (23)
Brennan (23)
Lycett (20)
Sheppard (22)

Brisbane

Rich (23)
Bewick (23)
Mayes (19)
Redden (22)
Banfield (23)

Cornelius (23)
Golby (21)
Green (20)
Longer (20)
Polec (20)
Rockliff (23)

Adelaide

Sloane (23)
Walker (23)
Talia (21)
Crouch (19)
Jaensch (23)

Petrenko (23)
Wright (23)

Dogs

Dahlhaus (20)
Liberatore (21)
Wallis (20)
Hrovat (19)
Stringer (19)

Cordy (23)
Howard (22)
Hunter (19)
Johannisen (20)
Jones (22)
Macrae (19)
Roughead (22)
Smith (20)
Stevens (22)
Talia (20)
Wood (23)

St Kilda

Steven (23)
Hickey (22)
Lee (22)
Siposs (20)
Roberton (22)

Newnes (21)
Ross (20)
Saad (23)
Simpkin (23)
Stanley (22)
Wright (19)

Melbourne

Viney (19)
Blease (22)
Toumpas (19)
Howe (23)
Trengove (21)

Clisby (23)
Fitzpatrick (22)
Gawn (21)
Jetta (23)
Kent (19)
T McDonald (20)
McKenzie (23)
Strauss (23)
Tapscott (22)
Terlich (23)
Watts (22)

I've been very impressed with Jamie Elliott at C/wood who is only 20....goes in hard; takes a mark; and is an opportunistic goalkicker at only 175cm.

We need quality kids.

If we can get 1st & 2nd picks for guys like Yarran, Hampson, Warnock, Lucas, Laidler, Garlett, Jamison, McLean I would jump at it.

We need 4-5 draft picks inside the top 25 if possible. Another 2-3 after that and a full group of new rookies.

If we can add 2-3 quality players under 23 even better through trade then great.

This is what we have to do because we haven't done anything for years.

We need quality kids.

If we can get 1st & 2nd picks for guys like Yarran, Hampson, Warnock, Lucas, Laidler, Garlett, Jamison, McLean I would jump at it.

We need 4-5 draft picks inside the top 25 if possible. Another 2-3 after that and a full group of new rookies.

If we can add 2-3 quality players under 23 even better through trade then great.

This is what we have to do because we haven't done anything for years.

Would love to be able to get 6 picks in the first 4 round rounds.

But it would probably end up like:


Livingston (4), Sporn (11), Wiggins (15), Campbell (31), O'Keeffe (46) & Beasy (61).

FWIW, not a single Carlton player features in the Under-23 All-Australian team



(not even in the "desperately unlucky" bit)

If we are seriously going to rebuild our list I wouldn't being going after Daisy Thomas.

We need quality kids.

Early draft picks essential.

If we do chase anyone from other clubs they have to be names like Dixon, Walker, Sinclair, Adams etc who are young and ready to step up.

We need quality kids.

If we can get 1st & 2nd picks for guys like Yarran, Hampson, Warnock, Lucas, Laidler, Garlett, Jamison, McLean I would jump at it.

We need 4-5 draft picks inside the top 25 if possible. Another 2-3 after that and a full group of new rookies.

If we can add 2-3 quality players under 23 even better through trade then great.

This is what we have to do because we haven't done anything for years.