Ah, Moshe, you always bring a bit of humour to the table. Love it.

If his gameplan is to get shut down in the back half and forced to bomb long to a contest while allowing the opposition to run out of their defense through he centre unopposed then the players are executing it perfectly.

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"One of my favorite philosophical tenets is that people will agree with you only if they already agree with you. You do not change people's minds." - Frank Zappa

I would like to personally thank the club for the marvelous decisions they have made over the last year.

Particular congratulations must be extended to the MC who have been brilliant at the selection table. I must say it was a masterstroke to take out 3 mids and and add 1 for the Bullies game. After all it was common knowledge that the Bulldogs midfield wasn't running hot at the moment ... well done ... it just adds to a long line of great decisions. I must also thank the MC for their courage and vision in the way they continually select the same players over and over again and refrain from trying to introduce players who have been performing well in the Northern Blues team ... Not only does it discourage other players from thinking they have a chance bit it also ensures that the current players are very comfortable regardless of how badly they are playing. ... well done again.

Next I would like to thank the CFC for their insight by selecting MM as our coach this year ... clearly an inspired decision. The fact that we have gone backwards and will probably end the season with about 10 wins is indeed inspirational ... especially when we were able to dismiss Ratten with so little expense.

Finally I wish to extend my hearty congratulations to MM who has successfully taken a team with potential and managed to get us into a better position for draft picks for next year. This was not an easy task since we have had a better and less injured team than last year ... but he has managed it with aplomb. It was a masterstroke by the master coach to keep players out of the side who had been previously thought highly of. In particular Laidler who was once though of as the best intercept defender in the game (at least thats what commentators were saying). On top of this he has gone to great lengths to lower the confidence of players like Yarran who has been a shadow of the player he was last year. And to cap it all off he has managed to sell the message of 'how little potential we have' so as not to make the AFL suspicious. A truly remarkable performance by the super coach.

Well done to everyone concerned.

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I am as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!

Problem isn't our list it's our poor work ethic, poor attitude and poor culture. MM has probably realised what he has walked into and it's someything you don't fix overnight. In 1991, when Parko come back, we lost our last 8. He had a huge clean out, not only blokes who weren't up to it but also cleaned out blokes that simply didn't work hard. We were in a similar malaise having won 11 games in 1990. What he did there got us in a GF in 1993 and won us a flag in 1995. We got younger blokes would worked their ring off for the club. Just makes such a difference. We can look most sides in the eye with our list but it is useless if they don't work.

MM, as he showed at Collingwood is similarly up to this job. Only 15th in his first year there after a good start but humiliating loses near the end. In 2 more years he was in a GF. Don't except to change overnight but he'll get blokes who want to play his way.

Lol

Last two seasons at pies flag and runner up

Reckon he knows what he's doing

Spot on

Serious question, what if his way is no longer the right way and won't get the job done?

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We are on our way back...

Different list
Different game
Different rules
Different draft (only 40 decent picks this yr)

Everything mm did at collingwood in 2002 is a bit irrelevant compared to present.

Mm will tear thru the list & blame the list for any failures. We took it up to geelong, syd, hawks and bombers first half the season with only a cpl kicks in it. Players we have are good enough to take it up to the best. But Since then mm's gameplan has gone kapoot and even bulldogs can smash us. So now it is the playing list.

Still not a fan of simmo, walker and gibbs in the backline. Meanwhile, he refuses to play laids or duigs when healthy to free them up.
We get smashed in contested ball and have robbo / bell not playing.

If mm never got a premiership in 2010, we would never of had him at the club this year. 2 flags in 30 yrs would of meant he never got offered enough to come out of media.

Too late to sack him, have to see what happens but l hope he doesnt destroy the club playing list for the next 5-10 years to save his reputation

If he fixes the 3 things mentioned i.e. poor work ethic, poor attitude, poor culture then that's a win. If the game plan does not work then that can be fixed with the next coach but the canvas will be easier to start with based on the fundamentals being addressed now.

MM has a history of being flexible and adapts well to what he has. It's what good coaches do. That's good given his last 2 years were a premiership and a GF. Then he had another year in the media to follow the game. Changes don't happen overnight.

I don't think our problem was ever actual coaching, it was work ethic, attitude, "want" and culture. That's been proved with a change of coach. Changing that aspect will be MM's main job at this club.

Well we will know in a few years

But happy to back in the best coach I have seen over last 20 years

"You're showing your ignorance again"

And some show their hypocrisy time and time again.

PREACHING does not equal PRACTICE in your world BV

If you had read my post properly yesterday, I gave you a genuine compliment about the quality of your posts in general before I made the negative comment about one particular post.

You keep playing the man when it suits whilst berating others from the pulpit when they do the same thing!

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If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you!

... verse Mick Shithouse.

I'd like to see them have a fight to the death with BBQ forks. One in each hand. In a pit.

Ratten beat better teams with a worse list thanks to injuries. Ratten got more out of the players ie Murphy, Betts, Laidler, Casboult etc too.

Shame we had to spend 3 million on Malthouse just to find out our list is shit and we have to rebuild it from the ground up through the draft.

By 2018 we could be a force again, if we draft sensibly. So it's not the end of the world.

I hope that Malthouse can get the playing list right at the end of the season, or at least get it on the right track. I then hope we get the right assistant coaches around him to get us playing the right style of football and get development working as well.

While we need to move on from the Ratten thing and look forward...I was wondering this morning if Ratten had any thoughts on how the change in coach was working for us and look what pops up on AFL Memes

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"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

Thank Christ we did it

We remember him alright, we just look at our crap list and the memories flood back.

Feel like im in a time warp and I have gone back 10 years to 2003
Same posters making the same excuses for a dud old coach
Its all about the crap list he was left and the crap board

Have we learnt nothing at all in 10 years
We have gone backwards because the players dont belueve the message they are being told . Its that simple
Malthouse just like Pagan has broughta crap game plan toa group of players that are not able to implement it
So Malthouse like Pagan should develop a plan that plays to the players strengths not their weakest point

We should have been pushing top 4 this year dont care what any keyboard warrior says . Malthouse has failed , failed the club the players tge fans and himself so his answer is to swing an axe through the playing group and go on a massive rebuild to buy time

He should be sacked imediately and replaced otherwise we will head diwn another 10 years of misery

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They will create an Emergency to change the Laws

You do realise pagan did have a crap list don't u in fact the worst list in Carlton history

Top 4 lol

A team that has won 1 final in a decade and u think we have a top 4 list

I recall us at full strength losing to Gold Coast who had 10 of there best 22 out last season

Give u the tip the list is weak and if u can't see that then your one eyed attitude to our players is tad embarrassing

Pretty sure we have all known that for a few years. The whole football world knew. Not ol 'asleep at the wheel' Mick though. He was waiting for the stars to align when he had his chance to do something about it.

Ego or madness??? Both?