It's not a blunder, it's a blessing that we've had a great coach challenge the list that in return has failed and will allow us to rebuild accordingly.

Nuts.

Spot on KK. You can actually see Mick just letting them go and thinking "gee they ARE crap". Is Mick too old for the total re-build though. It's going to take us about 6 years

Do you really believe this shit?

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I personally don't think it will take long to turn it around.

We need to nail the upcoming trade, free agency and drafts though.

We have the middle age bracket that is strong enough for us not to fall to St Kilda levels.

I do. Ratten created the list and the culture. Now it will be cleaned up by a proven Coach

Most of that list can't be coached. I said that when Ratten was there. But nevertheless, that was shite coaching today. Why was Bryce Gibbs playing a negating role on Dylan Addison and Koby Stevens? Why wouldn't you let him go into the middle and run head-to-head with Cooney...is he injured? Nah...he's just lazy...and being played, not out of position, but completely wrong. No spark from the player, nor the coaching staff. None.

Agree. A lot of players have been found out and/or have developed bad habits over the past few years that are extremely hard to change

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Serious question: how many are we allowed to turn over at season's end?

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Very uninspired coaching.

Malthouse was pantsed by a nobody.

As many as we want. Min. 3.

All depends upon salary cap, contracts etc and we haven't been very good in that area

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Exactly, FFS any chance, especially considering our injuries late that our number 1 and 2 draft picks could go in the midfield? Maybe we should groom Menzel to become a specialist back pocketer!

MM is yesterday's man.
All the winning coaches are 20 years younger than he is with a different game plan. Our game plan was great 20 years ago when Collingwood started it off. It has evolved over time but MM still wants to play it. Hug the boundary and keep the ball in tight. Pressure the ball player and then cross into the F50 from the flanks. hat?
Now, the best teams run the ball out of half back kin waves and use the corridor as often as possible. We saw a group of young kids do it tonight. Where were our defenders? Zoning the boundary. At one stage the behind the camera showed our setup after a point. There was NOBODY in the corridor and guess what? That's where it went.
We have an ageing list and both those articles were spot on. We are in for a rebuild but the players we recruit will be players MM wants so he can have a list that will be able to adapt to his 20 year old game plan. I just hope to goodness they are flexible because they will be needing to change things around when MM goes at the end of his contract.
We are officially shot.

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2 GF's last 4 years. Hmmmm.

Who rebuilt Collingwood to win that GF after the first rebuild for two GF's against the Lions?

BS..........I really hope that your view is BS. 'cause if its true.........

I just must trust Mick. The alternative is just too horrible to accept.

It takes a lot of time and effort and tough decisions to overturn more than a decade of mediocrity.

I hope we make the hard decisions and stay the course

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You can't play Bryce in a creative role in the midfield though Doc because he never shows anything there. The only game he's proven he can play on a consistent basis is a negating game. Remember he showed up Goodes in about 2009 or 2010? Well that's where he settled for in his footy career.

I still remember before we drafted him, Cazzesman said something about Gibbs like he's not exceptional at anything, but he's very good at everything. I think Bryce took the comment to heart and decided to steer further away from the exceptional. Plenty more tagging roles ahead for the lad. Let's hope most of them are for the Camry Crows.

You mean by greatly reducing our uncontested possession numbers by bombing it down the line?

Look at the top 7 or so and where they rank for uncontested possessions. Through short kicks, allowing players to be flexible; not locking them into a bomb bomb Carey Pagan game plan.

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oh yeah... and we have guys that can spread and kick???

This is what we have.. guys that dont run hard enough.. and alot of guys that cant kick

those that can kick cant run hard....

hey.... but i went to the bullants game.. and we have a lot of hbfers running around who cant run and kick....

i suppose we can bring those in.

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Agree there are a lot of 3rd talls who can't kick, however Graham has done more than enough to warrant a game. Hard runner who wins it in close and on the outside. Creative midfielder who can hit a target.

Don't forget MM chose to keep a lot of these list cloggers. Could have paid out their contracts. Wasted a year not doing it. It is very clear who needed to go.

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