I would add another 6 to that list of definites:


McLean
Lucas
McInnes
Garlett
Jamison
Buckley

I want to give myself a lick(wallys) july the 30 i wrote we must recruit more middys with strong bodies and some speed (opp of lucas).I say to swan if we cannot get boyd recruit middys that can hit our new chf watson on the chest.

McInnes is there and there is no way Buckley could be listed as a definite.

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Well looks like the penny dropped in 2012 that we need to draft mids

Completely agree that modern football is about mids

1 ruck
3 key forwards, and they don't all have to be tall
3 key defenders

The rest are all mids - some who can play HBF like Scotland, Walker, Gibbs, and some can play HFF/FP

Our recruiting has been deplorable. It took us too long to realize what the modern game is about and now teams like Port are going past us.

I could name 20 odd players who ought to go. You can't do that in one off season, do it will take years to flush out the list.

Our list has too many plodding, defensive, slow, unskilled taggers, and too many soft FPs. Very imbalanced

Club are out of their mind if they don't take the opportunity to let Betts go. We save $400k there which means can get 3 FAs assuming what Swann says about having room for 2 FAs is right. What's out there is another question though ...

Then trade Yarran and Warnock for picks, and go to the draft with a good hand and get mids, mids, and mids.

It looks like 2013 is the year we could choose to spend $600K on Betts...or could have spent the money on maybe a Dangerfield who was up for talks.

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Just had a look at the FA list. Not much there. Makes D. Thomas a logical target.

Morris would be nice but the Dogs appear to be coming good so he might stay? He's also too old at 30.

We may have to trade to use the approx $1.2m spare we appear to have.

Quality, and ideally big bodied mids , and quality KPPs is what we need.

Easier said than done.

Realistically what are the following worth in terms of draft picks in a trade?

Yarran - pick 15-25?
Warnock - pick 20-35?
Robinson- pick 30-40?
Hampson - nothing?

What are you on about re Danger?

Has Dustin Martin signed???

I'd prefer him to Daisy.

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I agree and would not sign Betts

If the FA market is looking a bit bare this year, then an option is to not to pursue a FA this year and accept a draft pick for Betts

Although Daisy would be handy on our list

I can see a few passengers requesting trades as no doubt they see harder yards ahead under Malthouse

I prefer to use them as Trade bait for some mids who may even still be under contract.
Bird in the hand.

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More of the scatter gun approach.
One week its the recruiters fault because they pick shit players.
Next week its Rattens fault because he didnt develop the players recruited.
Next week its the players fault because they were soft.
Get rid of the recruiters, get rid of the board, get rid of the Ratten, get rid of the players.....

Admit it. You have no @#$%&! idea. The same posters are moving on from one group to another.
You have no idea so you blame them all.

These are the same posters who told us MM would turn it all around in the second half of the year. The same posters who told us MM would develop the kids and give them opportunities.
The same posters who told us MM would extract the maximum from the players.
The same posters who continue to show they have no @#$%&! idea.

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You really are a grumpy @#$%&! aren't you

Even a ten year old cam see the inadequacies in the list

The problems are numerous

But this thread is about the list so I focus on that

Malthouse has runs on the board as a coach so give him an opportunity and time to recruit and develop players he thinks have required mental fibre

Else, instead of picking on others why don't you put forward your course of action for the club???

They will not need to request trades, they will be told to piss off.

Either way, we'd do well to be rid of these guys.

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#GUILTY

ive been thinking about this...

its a club thing.

were cursed as a club to just be shit..!!!!
from top to bottom...

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Malthouse has historically gone for players that fill a role, rather than big name players. it will be interesting to see which road Carlton go down in the off season.

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I usually fill a roll with meat, cheese and salad. Whether the players we recruit have reputations or not, we need more than just 'stock'.

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Just because I'm offended, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

And MM doesnt usually have many taggers. Thats different this year, so dont assume too much re recruitment patterns from past.

Also FA was not available before, so new opportunities exist.

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We don't need much. Just 8-10 big bodied, skilful midfielders who have the in built desire to work hard both ways, support their teammates, run their hearts out and be above average offensively and defensively.

At the moment don't reckon we even have one.

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