No point using our first pick on a key forward if there aren't any good ones.

That's why I said it would be preferential.

People have been screaming mid mid mid mid mid but once again we saw the deficiencies we have up forward.

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Thought we had deficiecies all over the park if we are a serious and ambitious contender

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we have an ageing midfield

midfielders should be the priority

this list won't take us to a premiership

Rowe is not good enough, so agree we do need another forward

I prefer Levi

Every club has some deficiency over the park but history suggests you need 2 key tall forwards who are at least slightly better than average or guns. Henderson is above average but the rest aren't.

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End up like the Western Bulldogs - kicking to Liam Jones. Lots of mids coming through but no one to kick to.

Can't stop kicking the can down the road.

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Just cherry pick a tall KP player in the free agencies this year or next. Maybe Hansen from North
Draft mids.

We lack polish on the ground.....

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Hansen is a key defender, shown no ability to play consistently as a forward.

Free agency/chequebook isn't the sustainable/long term way to go.

If you were to target a young KP player from another club for a trade with our first pick you'd go for someone like Tom Lynch from GC. Would complete a large part of the side. You'd have to satisfy GC though and that would be a big problem. You can draft quality KP forwards outside of the top 5.

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We've spent too much time playing it safe with too few picks and a (suspected) limited range of draft targets. We've had far too few second round selections and taking flankers/pocket players with over 50% of what we are left with is not good list management.

Yes we have an ageing midfield but our tall stocks are at least half missing (the ones who are likely to make it or make much of a difference, at least) so it's much of a muchness. I still hope making a play for the number 1 pick is not out of the question or unmanageable or we might have to get clever; something I don't have a lot of faith in Carlton being able to do. It more likely we'll stick with a 'devil you know' attitude when accessing players. Mitchell Brown, come on down!

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jameson is 28 with bad shoulders.
watson is 21 and cant turn

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Fact............all the great Carlton sides had a top CHF.Walls,Maclure,Sticks,even Earl.They went hand in hand with flags.Get it sorted.

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Need a key defender but lack of quality and consistency through the middle is a bigger issue

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Everyone opens the cheque book.
Name me a team that hasnt....

Its just you wouldnt spend it all on Thomas this year.
He doesnt offer leadership
He cant help structure
and he hasnt played in 2 seasons.

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Yeah, Synbad's wrong. This is sounds like trying to save the embarrassment of a club being on the slide, it's not about the club being 'more than mediocre' that Synbad harps on about. It's counter intuitive to what he preaches.

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Yeah, that keeps Hendo forward, what about the other one?

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We need to fill some key roles. Next year?

B: Temay. Jamison/White. McInnes/Laidler
HB: Walker. ?????? Bootsma/OKeefe

Foll: Kruezer. Judd. Murphy
C: ??????. Graham. Gibbs.

HF: ??????. Henderson. Menzel
F: Betts/Garlett. Waite. Casboult/Rowe


Int: Lucas Tuohy Cachia Simpson Carrazzo Armfield Buckley Bell


Talls I would be looking at:

Lycett, White, Griffiths, Jakcsh, Brown (cats) J.Tippett

Smalls:

Thomas Ellis D.Garlett Polec plus draft

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Our list is screwed. We need to pray for a stack of miracles.

But give him the ball within 50 metres and he's a beautiful kick.
Reprogram him as a KPF

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..Boyd is talked up as a big number 1 fav. cos he's good, but also cos he sounds like the only good tall [by a fair margin].. ..after boyd it's a good range of mids and mid/flanker types, but little top end talent in regards to kpps this draft..

..dee's looking extra smart cos hogan is smashing it, and is looking by far the 'real number one' of this draft..

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what do we do if the best player available at our first pick is a half back flanker?

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.