Agree

Last year fans of ROK said we should give him another you to see if his body holds up.

I was impressed with what I saw in the preseason with the hard body and good left foot, but he didn't set the world on fire.

IMO, he's taking up the spot of a new option we can also be looking at...whilst he develops...gotta turn them over.

Have a look at Graham. He's been here for 5 mins and already we know he'll make it.

Bell situation and player different to ROK. Bell has shown plenty imo.

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

Siren still makes a very good point.

We've already had a word into the ear of a top 10 midfield draft pick from last year, suggesting it would be worth his while not signing behind his original two years.

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I just want my old club back ... (edit) maybe I have!

Kenny,

Please tell me it's Wines

Kenny...please tell me it's Sam Mayes! (this kid will be better than Wines....and I rate Wines).

I hope we go into the draft with a 'best available' approach, rather than a 'mids only' attitude, because I think we need a bit of everything, except for ruckmen and small forwards. Talent is the overall priority.

If the planets all line up, during the off season we pick up a key defender, a key forward, a small defender and an inside mid. Trade to address need, draft the best available.

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It's never as good as it looks and it's never as bad as it seems.

Who ever we recruit 3pts quick tall and must kick 45 to 50m. I say no to daisy i would prefer crameri from ess if possible.

If its either I have a weekender I'm willing to donate the club rather than us giving up the farm that we will give up trying to land him in a trade deal.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

C'mon guys. Point is still made. McLean runs like a 30 year old anyway. Rok isn't a midfielder, Ellard isn't young and graham has no afl experience (tho I hold out great hope for him). Ok I forgot bell, but he was better in 2012 than he is this year.

I don't want to go best available when it would be a skerrick of difference between two 18 year olds. We simply need to bat deeper in the midfield. Don't need flankers fwd or back, don't need ruckmen, you could argue we could do with an extra decent tall but midfielders first and foremost. That's where the game is won. See Swans.

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Go Blues

Look I don't mind getting him however let's make a deal that works in our favour for a change.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

I don't agree. Hawthorn don't have the best midfield. But they have Buddy, Roughead and Gunston. Geelong have a deep midfield, but they don't have the best midfield. But they have Hawkins (and a useful backup in Pods) and Taylor. Essendon* don't have even close to the best midfield. But they have fantastic talls in Crameri, Hurley, Carlisle, Fletcher, Daniher, Ryder and Bellchambers (and Pears and Gumbleton are pretty useful back ups). Sydney have a fantastic midfield, but they also have Reid, Goodes, Tippett, Richards, Grundy, Pyke, Mumford, etc.

Would love to know as a fact, but I know we were into Wines.

Now, being the case that Rogers rated Menzel the second best player in the draft, who did he rate as the first?

Port offered Wines a contract extension in May to take him through to the end of 2016, but can't find any confirmation that he accepted it....

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He did state that he wanted to make Adelaide his new home & be a one club player - may have been a factor in Port taking him (over Mayes). Across the board, all things appear to be on the up @ Port, may take a few tricks to pry Wines back to Vic.

Agree on Wines.

To be honest the first name that came into my head was O'Rourke and then Whitfield, simply as Vic boys who might not want to be at GWS....

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..am no draft guru, but from what i've read plenty of the hype surrounding Boys id not purely because of his own talent, but cos it seems he's the only KPP talent.. ..looks to be Boyd as possible #1, and then mids for everyone after Boyd.. ..seems to be very mid-orientated for the top 20 to top 30 or so..

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Always take the best KP over the best midfielder. Midfielders you can find, KP are bloody harder, especially classy one's.
Some still don't get it!

Simmo said he was happy with our playing list on the footy show this morning, but then again he is talking about his mates so he wont be throwing them under the bus

You'd think Mick may already have his cull list made up now

i would prefer to swap yarran for 2 draft picks within the top 30 (one b/w 9-12)
than swap yarran and our first rounder for boyd
because we need to fix the midfield

There is no way we will secure the no.1 pick.

Forget about it. We would have had to trade one of Kruezer or Gibbs and they are now off the table.

Yarran isn't even close to being worth pick 6.

There aren't many players on our list with currency that we would deem trade worthy.

Walker + Yarran = too old, this is about all I can think of.

No number 1 pick for us!

i agree, no chance for tom boyd.
one of our problems is that we have a lot of similar type players;
curnow, cachia, bell, mclean, robinson and carrazzo not quick and average skills.
we have a few holes to plug, in no order,
1. key forward
2. key defender
3. mids
players that are in trouble, imo,
collins, o'keeffe, mitchell, davies, duigan, dale, joseph and ellard.
McCarthy i reckon will get another year.
laidler will get one more also, with duigan going maybe an insurance for our back line.
will scotland retire???
would GWS give up jaksch??? if so what price?? maybe yarran and robinson??? or yarran and warnock???
i would look at kieran harper from north.
i would look at david atsbury from tigers.
i would look at trading warnock and hampson with the view at chasing nathan vardy...
we have to be realistic at chasing players, don't want to sell the farm for a town house.
graham will add to our midfield next year, will buckley make it??? hope so....
would dale thomas fit into our midfield??? prob yes, but at what price, $650??? costs us no picks...
would be rapt if we could pick up.
nathan vardy, david astbury, kieran haper, dale thomas and kristian jaksch....
at the cost of,
yarran, robinson, warnock, hampson, second and third rounder..
still gives us our first pick to get the best available..
our team could look something like,
mcInnes jamison tuohy
walker astbury harper
thomas graham gibbs
garlett henderson menzel
betts vardy jaksch
kreuzer judd murphy
anyone from,
simpson, lucas, watson, bootsma
armfield, bell, curnow, cachia
casboult, rowe, carrazzo and our first pick.
buckley, temay, mccarthy and our all other picks will need some time.
white, laidler, mclean can all be back up depth players, waite will be a bonus if he plays at all..
harper is 21, vardy is 22, astbury is 22, menzel is 19, graham is 19, jaksch is 19, thomas is 26 and our first pick will be 18.
great age there, inject some talent whilst keeping the list at the right age, mix of youth and experience.
just some of my thoughts..