I'm still of the opinion the rules and different interpretations are making it difficult to umpire a game of football. It makes it hard for supporters to understand as well.

Rules Committee and Umpiring Department are to blame.

One thing we can say though is the way the game is now umpired is worse than it has ever been.

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Great to finally beat the bastards!

As crap as we were, I for one am just happy that we finally beat those turds.

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WADA medical director Dr Alan Vernec describes Essendon* FC drug case as biggest scandal in team sport the world of sport has seen. #WC2WB

#GUILTY

CON game was shit .Let us be honest
PRO Timmy Rogers and Julia Zemiro were awesome on Rockwiz

yep. it was. but winning shit games is preferable to losing shit games

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+1^

As for most of the other contributions on this thread, don't think I've seen more misery laden, black-hat, glass half empty posts. Ok, it wasn't pretty, but we did will ourselves to win. Saints aren't great, but we haven't beaten them much at all over the last 8 years or so. Still some issues with the culture of this group, their confidence is not great (but would at least not be dented further), and yes, song was very ordinary, but there were some positives.

Now for the roos next week. Go Blues!

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Have to say though, the carrying on of some of our supporters, particularly cheersquad, is a disgrace. There's always that one bloke shown on TV from the cheersquad, no matter the opposition, carrying on like a f-wit. Dead-set @#$%^ with obviously not much going on upstairs. Just enjoy the footy FFS or get out.

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"GIBBS."

Did the AFL/Stk/Seven Commentary think Milne who is charged with 4 counts of rape, and was already very unpopular, not get booed FFS even Malthouse called him "a rapist"?
The missing thing for me is I still can't believe he played, the Community deserves better from the game, and struggle to see how he became the victim.

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Hard to assess Watson's game.

Didn't really take a key forward all night, spent most of the night on Ahmed Saad. That goal one of the Saints boys kicked running into an open goal while Watson jogged lazily behind him was one of the most embarrassing things you'll see all year from Carlton.

On the other, he's clearly a very good decision maker, and an elite user of the footy by foot. Don't think he missed a target all night, and for a team that struggles so often with turnovers in the back half, may be useful.

Think he did enough to justify his spot against North's tall forward line this week, but not enough to avoid reserving judgment till then.

If I'm keeping one of him, Mitchell or McCarthy at the end of the year, I know who I'd pick.

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BLUES 2010: PAV AND JUDD = FLAGS. DOING IT FOR THE LOVE OF DICK PRATT.

HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

Please explain.

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THEY LIKE TO SEND UP!!!!!!!!

Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

Who? Watto? That was armitage that burnt him off for a goal. Watto was never going to catch him but should've at least made it look a little less obvious by not giving up straight away.
Both his and McInnes' disposal from the back half was excellent.

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Hmm, the same Saad who didn't play?

May have been Milera :$

Irrespective, played on someone far smaller than KP height.

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HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

Watto wasn't very good unfortunately. There was one chase that led to a saints goal where it looked like he was jogging on the spot. It was actually comical in its absurdity.

He has some pluses but far too many crosses. Can't see him being on the list next year.

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#DopeThenStash

Lucas' kicking is ahead of Carrazzo at the same age. Needs a summer of being harassed and made into an angrier player (maybe not possible) and to be judged solely on the number of effective tackles. That must be his major goal next year. Won't be traded. Work with him...and yes he drives me bananas as well JFTR

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It's nice to wake up after a game that we actually won!

He is an unusual one .

Those times he looks to be moving like treacle seem to come after repeat efforts .

He didn't seem to bad on the initial leads.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

thought his ruckwork was shithouse myself, regardless of those stats

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Went to the game against my better judgement, but buoyed by the win despite crap opposition who actually had the better of us statistically for much of the night.

Simmo's best game for the year. Intensity and flair and risk from him not seen for a while

Rowe > Casboult. Gets more of it, looks like a footballer, marks at least as well, and can kick.

Judd looked like the Captain again last night. I think he's deliberately taken a back seat this year so as not to undermine Murph, and its been to the detriment of the team.

Just can't see how Watson fits in to a good side moving forward. He is just too slow, certainly can't cover a lead, cant exert pressure, struggles to spoil, lacks any oomph, and was regularly out marked and outplayed by a bloke Tom Lee who I'd never heard of. Well, apart from his video.

Don't think Murph should be playing right now, helmet or not. He's not right. Seeing that nuff nuff Clint Jones accelerate away from him into an open goal and on another occasion give up the chase was quite striking.

Hendo forward or back. I'm still torn, although with Waite out it's a no brainer. BKB what do you think?

All this bullshit about booing Stephen milne. Does anyone in the media realise that he's been booed for years anyway?

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Congratulations CK95

There's one in every cheer squad

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