Synners,

Who are Fahours 2 supporters?

Do the rest support Sticks or is there a third group?

A proper independent review at the right time might be a good idea.

I'd add that current performance levels are the logical consequence of insufficient early draft choices over many years (1-6), stemming from overconfidence of the 3x1s and too great a reliance on rookies over that era. The list management of our club has assumed a messiah type complex for too long (judd and Malthouse are but two examples). To overcome this long period of oversight you either need exceptional coaching (no), exceptional development (no), some luck (I think we've had a lot) or magnificent levels of effort - and probably you need it all.

You cant just turn up with an ignored list and expect others to fall away as you approach. Im no Malthouse fan (the man or the appointment) but there is a limit to the impact any one can have starting with years of inaction having already taken place.

One Area which really made my blood Boil last year was the Recruitment Department....

I can't aim the fingers at Malthouse because he came late to the Scene. When the Trade period began, We sent out a pathetic statement saying:

" The Carlton footy Club will not be participating in any trades as our List is stable and strong, and we have all areas covered. We are near the doors of challenging for the primership "


The drafts that followed saw us follow the same trend and hold the same statement. It is simply pathetic and unacceptable.

The Club needs to be aggressive in targeting some established players. That means getting rid of house hold names such as Gibbs or Carrazo or even Judd.

We have so many average middle rank footballers in our team. They show a bit, but when it comes to the big games and playing the top 8 clubs, they can't compete with them. Get rid of them or trade them.

The Players in my mind who will never take us anywhere and need to be looked at are:

Curnow
Cachia
Bootsma
White
Hampson
Laidler
Watson
Davies
Armfield
Casboult
Duigan
Ellard
Joseph
Collins
Dale
O'Keffe


Players which the Club must be prepared to Trade are:

Yarran
Gibbs
Warnock
Lucas
Robinson
Mcarthy
Armfield

Pratts support Fahour.. the rumour is cos he has a contract to buy Australia Post boxes from Visy..

The third group is Newton he can be president when Sticks has had his fill after the 150th year....

Anyway alot of other people cant get a look in because the board is abit insular
An indie audit of the footy club will highlight this....

Thanks,

Who are newton's supporters and how many? Is he better option than fahour?

he comes in as succesor in 2014.... has no supporters to knock off sticks or ahmed..
but has supporters for 2014 fahour has prattts.. they make his boxes and have a contract with AP..... as i understand things

politics is a very complex thing at the CFC... an independent review will certainly expose things... things that stop any indie review from occuring...

i think an indie review would be good.. what do you think???

the old guard will protect their reputations - no review

need people in power with no history to protect

independent review would look into this... depending on how much u wanna spend and how deep u wanna go...
how the board uses each other to shore up their power base and not include others from the outside unless they play ball.... if thats indeed how they operate...

whats that mean... r u for a review or for the status quo to remain...???

id love to pick johnm 's mind into how to have a total indie review ....or doc sherrin... or even u if u have any answers.

id be flying people in from overseas....cost more but the rewards would be greater

What sort of potential president would be prepared to wait 12 months to take over the job, just so the incumbent can stay on and be head cheerleader for the 150 yr party? Would Costa do that, would McGuire do that? Sounds like Newton is weak.

Either the new president gets in now and makes the changes needed or it tells me that the next president (obviously Newton) is one of Sticks yes men and we will see nothing more than we see today. Steady as she goes, and we will hear nothing about the fact that we are failing!

Rexy when u notice things that i write youre reading between the lines and writing your own book.

anyway lets move forwards..

Are you hoping 2 vote Fahour beats 1o vote sticks and is that ur hope for change???

(interested)

explain it....

Rexy when u notice things that i write youre reading between the lines and writing your own book.

anyway lets move forwards..

Are you hoping 2 vote Fahour beats 1o vote sticks and is that ur hope for change???

(interested)

explain it....