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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:39 am 
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Stephen Kernahan
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No point asking us.

We have no skin in the game.

Unless you keep the club on a drip feed of cash you are of no importance, unless it's election time.

FMD, the WCE and Dockers are virtually an arm of government (WAFC) and yet they are better run than us.


Get the great collection of human waste who sit on our board to make a contribution (other than cash). Some of them and their name dropping flunkies inhabit this forum.

This is not a football club run by and for members, it is a pet, a hobby a play thing for moderately capable wealthy people and their idiot relatives.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:42 am 
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How about we start with someone actually putting their hands up and taking some responsibility for what's been going on there?

Responsibility for poor recruitment.
Responsibility for poor development.
Responsibility for poor list management (what happened (or didn't happen) at the end of 2012 was inexcusable).
Responsibility for poor coach selections.
Responsibility for the debt still being so huge.
Responsibility for falling so far behind in membership numbers.

All this points back to the Board for me, and to Kernahan, who never took any responsibility for hi key involvement in the Elliot fiasco, and has refused to take responsibility for anything since.

And one more thing. That the Board has publicly stated, on the back of Pratt's desire/demand, that it's aim is to cut back Board numbers, and has been unable to do so for the last 4 or so years (and in fact, has actually increased numbers), is such a damning indictment on the egos of the whole lot of them that they should all resign. What a disgrace, they should all hang their heads in shame.

This has been discussed over and over on these pages. Successful organisations start with successful and strong leadership, who make the right decisions, who take responsibility, who create the right culture and who put the right people in place. The Board of this football club has shown time and time again that it is simply incapable of doing that.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:44 am 
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We need a playing president, someone who is a star on and off the ground.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:44 am 
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Siegfried wrote:
How about we start with someone actually putting their hands up and taking some responsibility for what's been going on there?

Responsibility for poor recruitment.
Responsibility for poor development.
Responsibility for poor list management (what happened (or didn't happen) at the end of 2012 was inexcusable).
Responsibility for poor coach selections.
Responsibility for the debt still being so huge.
Responsibility for falling so far behind in membership numbers.

All this points back to the Board for me, and to Kernahan, who never took any responsibility for hi key involvement in the Elliot fiasco, and has refused to take responsibility for anything since.

And one more thing. That the Board has publicly stated, on the back of Pratt's desire/demand, that it's aim is to cut back Board numbers, and has been unable to do so for the last 4 or so years (and in fact, has actually increased numbers), is such a damning indictment on the egos of the whole lot of them that they should all resign. What a disgrace, they should all hang their heads in shame.

This has been discussed over and over on these pages. Successful organisations start with successful and strong leadership, who make the right decisions, who take responsibility, who create the right culture and who put the right people in place. The Board of this football club has shown time and time again that it is simply incapable of doing that.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:47 am 
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It all starts at the top, Synbad.
Board need to have the best person as the Prez and Stick's is not that. We invited two potential successors to join the board and for different reasons, neither will assume the mantle - FAILURE and poor succession planning!!!
CEO & GM Football roles need to be heavily scrutinised - apart from the Prez, these are two most influential roles at the club. On a rating scale of 1 to 5 with 1 being unsatisfactory, 2 being Needs Improvement, 3 Achieving, 4 Exceeding, and 5 Outstanding, from the outside, these guys would be rated Needs Improvement at best - this rings alarm bells!!!!
Head of Recruiting and Recruitment Department - Full review with a new panel of recruiters appointed from clubs like Geelong and Sydney with no expense spared!!! Rating 1 (Unsatisfactory)
Senior Coach - Excused in year 1, with heavy scrutiny in Year 2 and Year 3. Rating 3 (Achieving - watch this space)
Assistant coaches - see Recruiting - Rating 2 Needs Improvement

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:51 am 
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verbs wrote:
We need a playing president, someone who is a star on and off the ground.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:51 am 
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Wangers wrote:
It all starts at the top, Synbad.
Board need to have the best person as the Prez and Stick's is not that. We invited two potential successors to join the board and for different reasons, neither will assume the mantle - FAILURE and poor succession planning!!!
CEO & GM Football roles need to be heavily scrutinised - apart from the Prez, these are two most influential roles at the club. On a rating scale of 1 to 5 with 1 being unsatisfactory, 2 being Needs Improvement, 3 Achieving, 4 Exceeding, and 5 Outstanding, from the outside, these guys would be rated Needs Improvement at best - this rings alarm bells!!!!
Head of Recruiting and Recruitment Department - Full review with a new panel of recruiters appointed from clubs like Geelong and Sydney with no expense spared!!! Rating 1 (Unsatisfactory)
Senior Coach - Excused in year 1, with heavy scrutiny in Year 2 and Year 3. Rating 3 (Achieving - watch this space)
Assistant coaches - see Recruiting - Rating 2 Needs Improvement


If it starts at the top then it starts with the board.

Get rid of that pile of excrement first.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:55 am 
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Oh and one other thing - the club needs a GM of Human Resources - to set the team and club culture, instil appropriate talent & succession management, performance, and conduct management processes.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:00 pm 
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Ok then, just how can we initiate the changes we need?

We are members. Thus we do have skin in the game. How can we get change to occur?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:01 pm 
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trublu wrote:
Those bagging Malthouse are clueless.

Mick knows exactly what it takes to win a premiership. The kind of players you need to win a premiership. The right culture you need....... THEY ARE NOT THAT EASY TO WIN

He has come from one of the best resourced clubs in history, what ever he wanted he got and thats why he had COllingwood play in 4 grand finals, 8 preliminary 6 in a row.

Those who thought Mick was going to walk in and steer the current group to a flag this year are delirious.

Season 2013 for Mick is working out if he has those ingredients to take this club to a flag...... He worked out pretty early in the piece he doesn't. We lack smart footballers, leaders, skilful players and a bit of mongrel. THATS NOT MICKS FAULT

Mick is a smart man. He will rebuild this list. Rebuild the culture. He will demand success and demand the resources that a club like ours should have. And I HAVE NO DOUBT THE CLUB WILL BE BETTER FOR IT

I for one am most happy to have Mick at our club no matter his age. He knows his stuff. He knows what it takes and HE WILL REBUILD THIS CLUB

YOU GOT TO HAVE FAITH IN MICK..... he will do it



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:07 pm 
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Siegfried wrote:
How about we start with someone actually putting their hands up and taking some responsibility for what's been going on there?

Responsibility for poor recruitment. Ratten, Hughes and his group
Responsibility for poor development. Richardson and the assistant coaches and Bullants crap
Responsibility for poor list management (what happened (or didn't happen) at the end of 2012 was inexcusable). Ratten Icke and is McKay any good?
Responsibility for poor coach selections. Sticks
Responsibility for the debt still being so huge. Sticks and the Board
Responsibility for falling so far behind in membership numbers. Sticks, the Board and Menbership gang...they aren't a Dept!

All this points back to the Board for me, and to Kernahan, who never took any responsibility for hi key involvement in the Elliot fiasco, and has refused to take responsibility for anything since. Yep

And one more thing. That the Board has publicly stated, on the back of Pratt's desire/demand, that it's aim is to cut back Board numbers, and has been unable to do so for the last 4 or so years (and in fact, has actually increased numbers), is such a damning indictment on the egos of the whole lot of them that they should all resign. What a disgrace, they should all hang their heads in shame.

This has been discussed over and over on these pages. Successful organisations start with successful and strong leadership, who make the right decisions, who take responsibility, who create the right culture and who put the right people in place. The Board of this football club has shown time and time again that it is simply incapable of doing that.


:thumbsup: In a nutshell Seigfried

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:20 pm 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k04UCvTREo8




perhaps Mick could show this to Sticks to finally get the true message across


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:56 pm 
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Wangers wrote:
Oh and one other thing - the club needs a GM of Human Resources - to set the team and club culture, instil appropriate talent & succession management, performance, and conduct management processes.


Happy to put my hand up. :smoking:

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:10 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
did we have our independent review of the footy club yet???


I asked that late last year or early this year and got scalded for it.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:12 pm 
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Ziggy's been busy over at the Bummers. He will be here as soon as he can.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:13 pm 
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 2:18 pm 
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This just can`t go on any longer. At seasons end all board positions (reduced to 7) should be made vacant. Can`t keep going with this crap anymore.
There is no passion, no soul the cupboard is bare. I feel like i don`t have a club. Are we in this comp` for mere existence?
Recruiting and assistant coaches-complete overhaul. No more "he`s a really nice kid and comes from a good family"
Sticks biggest gift for the 150th next year would be to go.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 2:26 pm 
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Princes Park Whistler wrote:
This just can`t go on any longer. At seasons end all board positions (reduced to 7) should be made vacant. Can`t keep going with this crap anymore.
There is no passion, no soul the cupboard is bare. I feel like i don`t have a club. Are we in this comp` for mere existence?
Recruiting and assistant coaches-complete overhaul. No more "he`s a really nice kid and comes from a good family"
Sticks biggest gift for the 150th next year would be to go.


Spot on! All of it, particularly the part about not feeling like you have a club.

I don't like the AFL, don't like watching football that much anymore.

The one thing that keeps me going is my club. Half the time I wonder why.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 2:30 pm 
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Fahour needs to get the numbers and challenge Kernahan for the leadership. This might break the deadlock at board level and create a change through the club.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 2:31 pm 
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Im actually interested in what EVERYBODY thinks.
come on people.. what needs to be done???
Id start with a very thorough independent review of this footy club that leaves no stone unturned...

I sure it will say.. the club is in magnificent hands... from president and board through admin recruiting development coaching and playing staff....

All good.. tick tick tick tick tick

I think we need to make Sticks accountable...

Maybe a motto called "Stcking fat"... which calls upon OUR club to undergo a complete and thorough football review of OUR footy club...

Anyone else think this is a good idea???

If you think so ets get some people putting themselves down for this.....

Before Sticks appoints himself as president of the clubfor next year... lets see us have a proper indie review!!!

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