this sums up everything

EVERYTHING !

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

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Half twelve mate, time to cry ourselves to sleep.

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I could go on with what I have been saying on this site for years and go through last nights game but the bottom line with footy clubs is you have to have a good board.
We don't because it goes like this
Shit President
Shit Vice President
Shit board
Shit CEO
Shit Coaches
Shit Assistant coaches
Shit player manager
Shit head recruiter
Shit assistant recruiters
Shit conditioning staff

which leads to a shit footy team and what we got last night.

MM has inherited a shit footy club and at 60 he might not have the at least 5 years minimum he needs to repair the damage.
Problem is even his best efforts would be meaningless whilst Kernahan is President.

The longer he stays the worse we are off.
Not much point talking about what needs to happen when we have Sticks, Jeanie, McKay...................................at the club

The problem getting Malthouse was he finish his media commitments last year and didn't really know much about the Blues list
He does now but the list should have been cleaned out last year. At least a dozen players including some big names.


For what its worth we need to start again Start from the bottom and work are way up from there.
Do you think the board would want that
Not the Carlton way
Just give away a few picks and some more for Boyd who is one player.
Yeah right



Oh where is the Cazz........
Wonder what he thinks of all this

Well I'm with the gang that says we need to draft midfielders by the truckload. Because we have an ageing midfield that gets consistently smashed by good teams and the only depth we have is Graham and possibly Buckley. In fairness some people would add Bell to that list - I personally don't, but for the sake of discussion we conceivably have 1-3 midfielders who can replace Judd, Carrazzo, McLean, or Simpson. That's without replacing any of the tagger / holding types Curnow, Armfield, Ellard when playing, and overlooking the possibility Murphy or Gibbs could get injuries.

So we have 1-3 possibles for replacing 4 ageing onballers, and zero depth to replace taggers with ball winners or fill in for injuries. To me that is as close as you get to a midfield crisis. Yeah we could go after Boyd. He'd stand in the goal square and catch a cold while we watched Jamo getting monstered by whatever key forward is standing down the other end.

The good news last night was McInnes. With him and Bootsma we have our HBF's sorted out - it only took Hughes the best part of ten drafts. But you look at Collingwood's midfield rotations and that is where we can't even hold a candle to other sides. The embarrassing thing is that Collingwood side isn't even all that good.

So off to the draft for mine. It's not meant to be great for height or pace but it is meant to be good for natural footballers who can play onball. We need to pick up at least four of them in my view just to even get to square one. Trades can be Kreuzer or Garlett. Keep Yarran and pray to hell he can develop a tank that may one day allow him to go into the square for five minutes per quarter. We'll have to hope Casboult comes on and sort out the talls in the 2014 offseason. No going for talls from state leagues this year either because Essendon* is going to have a monopoly on them.

Throw buckets and buckets of money at the Geelong recruitment staff.

Get rid of the list cloggers.

Trade for picks, not players. Go hard and realise that we will be middle of the road for the next two years at least. Trade anyone who won't be here in 4 years. Trade excess players in each position ( thinking rucks, small forwards and hbf mostly here) Get us a bunch of tatts tickets (picks) for them.

Draft real footballers not in between types.

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Oh and forget about daisy. He won't add much.

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You know, I know and most of the people in this thread know but does the MC know? Do the recruiters know? Does the admin know.

And if they do, the more important question is, do they have the balls to do what needs to be done?

I'm not confident they do.

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Theyre all cyphers in the big scheme of things.
The problem is the board and president.

again they will try to appease us by getting us daisy...and maybe boyd...

get rid of the president and board and have a new election where everyone who thinks they have something to contribute can come forward
atm .. who will step forward and go against (worst president of all time Sticks) and the pratts and the mathiesons.???

we have the worst recruitment and footy dept group going around.

there is no semblence of understanding what we need ..... its just (insert big name here)and it will be right!!!

CULTURE!!!

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The place needs a fumigation....!!!

Sticks and Co have run the place in to the ground...... more into the ground...... they just need to go!!

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I'm with you. We bat very very shallow - and we need to be accountable for that. Our recruiting efforts for a long period have been mediocre.

History over the last 10-15 years suggests we have been very ordinary with draft selection - unless hey are handed to us on a platter.

Boy, im still reeling from using first round picks (all in the same year) on livingstone, wiggins and sporn!!

How many draft picks has this club had over the last 10 to 12 years 50 or more if that is the case
can someone please explain how this club had more rookies or former rookies listed players play last
nite then players who were drafted . These players were rookies because they are simply not good
to be drafted

Mindset is an issue - I know it would be a team rule, but why else would Garlett run off the field after kicking a goal in the first 20 seconds? If I'm his opponent surely I'm worried he might have 2 goals in the first minute and I'm in for a long night. Read the game FFS! Understand the moment ! Don't be a robot.

From the stands it looks like procedural stuff like that is given more weight than sticking a tackle or hitting a target.

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A lot is being said about drafting and the like, which is fair enough. But I think a bit of focus is being lost on the fact that so many of the players we have are mentally fragile, soft or lazy. Was this a problem when these guys came to the club or was it "the Carlton effect"?, because if its the latter no matter who we pick up, they're doomed from the start.

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cripes...what happened? Luckily I'm away and completely missed the game. sounds as though mental toughness is an issue FIRST...then the player rebuild

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great post

agree with everything

there has never been a worse performance by a club in the draft

that was the beginning of the nightmare we are still experiencing

I have never thought of that Don, I've always assumed it was the type of personality we drafted .

The point is we play like cowards ....Apart from a couple..,,

McLean for Captain....... Seems the Inly one capable....but he has chook legs......Murphy was obviously a misguided choice because he's played hesitant football all year.

We need so much change.

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