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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:45 pm 
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Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
mikeychook wrote:
The Boyd/Daisy double would be nice.

History suggests that we probably won't get either.

Five months of speculative blogging won't seal the deal.


..don't like the Boyd/Daisy double at all.. ..that double is selling what little shred of soul the club has left.. ..most likely Krooz will be part of the deal to get Boyd.. ..Daisy will cost overs to get across from pies as restricted F.A.. ..so we ship off a loyal player that knocked back a huge contract to stick with the club, and bring in a cashed up merc..

..team culture would suck.. ..and it ain't too bright to begin with.. ..we shipped off Kennedy, he loved the club and didn't want to leave but did what was best for the club.. ..and now we wanna do the same with Krooz..

Agree with you, loyalty goes both ways.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:49 pm 
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Eagles have Scott Lycett who's starting to take the game on now in the WAFL. Last month has been very good. I saw him live for the first time this year a couple of weeks back and he's becoming a player.

He's 202 cm but has a few tricks. He's a ruckman/forward who can mark AND kick.

He's not an athlete, he's a footballer who moves well.

In his 3rd year at the Eagles and can't get in ahead of Nic Nat and Cox in the ruck and can't get in forward because of Kennedy and Darling. I will say however he hasn't shown a lot when he has played for the Eagles. I just reckon he's a 21 yea old finding his way, but will.

The Eagles lack pace and we have some with Yarran, Garlett, Betts and Armfield all WA boys (Eddie left WA as a young man).

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:20 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
Eagles have Scott Lycett who's starting to take the game on now in the WAFL. Last month has been very good. I saw him live for the first time this year a couple of weeks back and he's becoming a player.

He's 202 cm but has a few tricks. He's a ruckman/forward who can mark AND kick.

He's not an athlete, he's a footballer who moves well.

In his 3rd year at the Eagles and can't get in ahead of Nic Nat and Cox in the ruck and can't get in forward because of Kennedy and Darling. I will say however he hasn't shown a lot when he has played for the Eagles. I just reckon he's a 21 yea old finding his way, but will.

The Eagles lack pace and we have some with Yarran, Garlett, Betts and Armfield all WA boys (Eddie left WA as a young man).


I've said it before...reckon the Eagles are crying out for one of our small forwards

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:22 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
Eagles have Scott Lycett who's starting to take the game on now in the WAFL. Last month has been very good. I saw him live for the first time this year a couple of weeks back and he's becoming a player.

He's 202 cm but has a few tricks. He's a ruckman/forward who can mark AND kick.

He's not an athlete, he's a footballer who moves well.

In his 3rd year at the Eagles and can't get in ahead of Nic Nat and Cox in the ruck and can't get in forward because of Kennedy and Darling. I will say however he hasn't shown a lot when he has played for the Eagles. I just reckon he's a 21 yea old finding his way, but will.

The Eagles lack pace and we have some with Yarran, Garlett, Betts and Armfield all WA boys (Eddie left WA as a young man).


Might sound silly and short sighted, but I would prefer to let Yarran go instead of Armfield.

Armfield has worked his guts out to be a good player, I think it sends the wrong message if you let him go and keep Yaz.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:23 pm 
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Navy Blue Horse wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
Eagles have Scott Lycett who's starting to take the game on now in the WAFL. Last month has been very good. I saw him live for the first time this year a couple of weeks back and he's becoming a player.

He's 202 cm but has a few tricks. He's a ruckman/forward who can mark AND kick.

He's not an athlete, he's a footballer who moves well.

In his 3rd year at the Eagles and can't get in ahead of Nic Nat and Cox in the ruck and can't get in forward because of Kennedy and Darling. I will say however he hasn't shown a lot when he has played for the Eagles. I just reckon he's a 21 yea old finding his way, but will.

The Eagles lack pace and we have some with Yarran, Garlett, Betts and Armfield all WA boys (Eddie left WA as a young man).


I've said it before...reckon the Eagles are crying out for one of our small forwards


And given how well our faster players played against the WCE, they might stick in the memory.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:24 pm 
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Navy Blue Horse wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
Eagles have Scott Lycett who's starting to take the game on now in the WAFL. Last month has been very good. I saw him live for the first time this year a couple of weeks back and he's becoming a player.

He's 202 cm but has a few tricks. He's a ruckman/forward who can mark AND kick.

He's not an athlete, he's a footballer who moves well.

In his 3rd year at the Eagles and can't get in ahead of Nic Nat and Cox in the ruck and can't get in forward because of Kennedy and Darling. I will say however he hasn't shown a lot when he has played for the Eagles. I just reckon he's a 21 yea old finding his way, but will.

The Eagles lack pace and we have some with Yarran, Garlett, Betts and Armfield all WA boys (Eddie left WA as a young man).


I've said it before...reckon the Eagles are crying out for one of our small forwards


They can take their pick in exchange for Luke Shuey


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:27 pm 
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Adam Chatfield wrote:
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Might sound silly and short sighted, but I would prefer to let Yarran go instead of Armfield.

Armfield has worked his guts out to be a good player, I think it sends the wrong message if you let him go and keep Yaz.


I don't know who should be traded or even if we should trade for a forward. A backman might be cheaper.

Just like the look of Lycett and these guys are a hell of a lot cheaper when they are third banana or playing in poor sides than when they start making an impact.

Remember the Butcher hype last year?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:36 pm 
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Remember last year 'The Psych' being a big fan of Lycett, but with Cox nearing 32 you'd think the Eagles wouldn't part with him cheaply unless he wanted to go.

SA boy, so no go home factor in play but greater opportunity could entice him.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:51 pm 
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Remember last year 'The Psych' being a big fan of Lycett, but with Cox nearing 32 you'd think the Eagles wouldn't part with him cheaply unless he wanted to go.

SA boy, so no go home factor in play but greater opportunity could entice him.


The WCE are a strange bunch and Woosh is a little bit strange as well.

He sticks with his stars and won't be rushed. It cost him Ebert, which is proving costly, Koby Stevens, which is less costly and could well cost him Lycett.

He keeps playing Embley who is simply diabolical and having made his decision on Gaff (in the positive) he keeps on playing him even though he makes Lucas look as hard as granite. He kept playing Masten when every man and his dog knew Ebert was a better player, leader and person. He also chose to play Cox for an entire season with a broken foot in a year they finished almost last.

He can be stubborn. To be fair Lycett hasn't done a lot at the top level, but the Eagles have more firepower up front and that's where I see Lycetts future.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:59 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
Blueboy74 wrote:
Remember last year 'The Psych' being a big fan of Lycett, but with Cox nearing 32 you'd think the Eagles wouldn't part with him cheaply unless he wanted to go.

SA boy, so no go home factor in play but greater opportunity could entice him.


The WCE are a strange bunch and Woosh is a little bit strange as well.

He sticks with his stars and won't be rushed. It cost him Ebert, which is proving costly, Koby Stevens, which is less costly and could well cost him Lycett.

He keeps playing Embley who is simply diabolical and having made his decision on Gaff (in the positive) he keeps on playing him even though he makes Lucas look as hard as granite. He kept playing Masten when every man and his dog knew Ebert was a better player, leader and person. He also chose to play Cox for an entire season with a broken foot in a year they finished almost last.

He can be stubborn. To be fair Lycett hasn't done a lot at the top level, but the Eagles have more firepower up front and that's where I see Lycetts future.


They're the sort of talls we should be targeting.

Offer them a good price but dont pay the world.
Get 2 of them from Weagles. Bumbers or Swans....or GWS...just get them.
Plus do the same sort of hunting for midfielders...ready made for 2014.
The draft is for the future. We need 25% of the players from Swans game for a tilt at the flag whilst Juddy is still there.

You've got me really interested...didnt think of Lycett

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:03 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
He keeps playing Embley who is simply diabolical and having made his decision on Gaff (in the positive) he keeps on playing him even though he makes Lucas look as hard as granite. He kept playing Masten when every man and his dog knew Ebert was a better player, leader and person. He also chose to play Cox for an entire season with a broken foot in a year they finished almost last.

He can be stubborn. To be fair Lycett hasn't done a lot at the top level, but the Eagles have more firepower up front and that's where I see Lycetts future.


:banghead: :banghead: Gaff is a really good footballer. Getting tagged every week. Masten's a pretty good footballer too. Got that way by playing senior footy. I know @#$%&! all about Scott Lycett - but if you reckon he's any good...I reckon we should give him a wide berth.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:12 pm 
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He keeps playing Embley who is simply diabolical and having made his decision on Gaff (in the positive) he keeps on playing him even though he makes Lucas look as hard as granite. He kept playing Masten when every man and his dog knew Ebert was a better player, leader and person. He also chose to play Cox for an entire season with a broken foot in a year they finished almost last.

He can be stubborn. To be fair Lycett hasn't done a lot at the top level, but the Eagles have more firepower up front and that's where I see Lycetts future.


:banghead: :banghead: Gaff is a really good footballer. Getting tagged every week. Masten's a pretty good footballer too. Got that way by playing senior footy. I know !@#$%& all about Scott Lycett - but if you reckon he's any good...I reckon we should give him a wide berth.


Gaff : getting tagged and struggling, light frame, hates getting tackled OUTSIDE AS THEY COME.
Masten better than Ebert? Good luck with that assessment.
Lycett, we shall see. I reckon he's a reasonable prospect. 20 years old, in the system for 3 years. BOG on the weekend and thats a few good games in a row.

As you remind me constantly Doc, it's a bit hard for you to judge on the other side of the country.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:55 pm 
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Lycett's not bad - bit of a tractor though

we need better

already have a few tractors

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Lycett's not bad - bit of a tractor though

we need better

already have a few tractors


Maybe.

It is the WAFL.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:02 am 
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has potential

but as far as tractors go we have kreuzer, casboult, rowe, mitchell, watson - barely an agile athletic bone amongst the lot of them and yeah some will go at years end

but does a lycett really improve our list?

not sure

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:13 am 
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grrofunger wrote:
has potential

but as far as tractors go we have kreuzer, casboult, rowe, mitchell, watson - barely an agile athletic bone amongst the lot of them and yeah some will go at years end

but does a lycett really improve our list?

not sure


For me Lycett moves (and thinks) like a footballer. Not super quick, but good hands and body work. He's certainly an upgrade on Mitchell and I don't see Watson playing forward (but he might as well so far as I can tell and reports from the seconds) plus he's BIG, 202cm, that's serious bigness. He's not a pack busta like Cas, but he can kick, which Cas can't.

Is he better than Rowe? I'm hoping Rowe gets another year because I reckon his issue is tank related, but there's a reasonable prospect he is.

Anyway, we'll see.

Probably get delisted now I've backed him.

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A ruckman we can turn into a forward ... why didn't I think of that!! :wink:


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Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
..Mikey, you didn't mention Krooz as part of Boyd deal but it seems that's possibly what it will take.. ..krooz and our 1st rounder, or maybe yazz and our 1st rounder.... ..usually getting pick 1 will cost..

..yes i agree players need ability to go along with their G&D.. ..krooz has both.. ..we dont have enough players with both..


I just came up with a scenario that will get Hawthorn pick #1 anyway and I can't believe I didn't think of it before.

They trade Franklin and their first pick, or another player to GWS for pick#1. Why? Because Franklin is going there as a free agent anyway and they will only get pick 18-19 for him as compo. Easier for them to just bite the bullet and convince GWS to trade for him. GWS can get him for nothing so a sweetener would be needed.

That's the sort of quality we will have to compete against if we want pick #1.

You love Kreuzer and that's fine. Just don't get too attached to him or anybody else for that matter.

BTW, Wiggo was like Kreuzer in terms of doing it for the club. Problem was he didn't have the skills to play his position so he played twos for long periods of time every time he was trying to get back from injury. I'm not suggesting Wiggo is Kreuzer but I AM suggesting that if you are just OK at playing your position and there is someone else not that much different, you become dispensable.

One of our rucks will almost certainly go and it will be a business decision for the club who it is based on value for money alone.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:39 am 
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I posted about Lycett during last years trade period.

I was very impressed with him in a game at Docklands in his first year (I think against North). Didn't do that much but some things he did showed ability.

Then I watched him in a game earlier this year and thought he was rubbish.

Interesting that cimm reckons he's been very good for a month in WAFL.

I'd be interested, but only if we trade 2 rucks out.

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cimm1979 wrote:
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cimm1979 wrote:
He keeps playing Embley who is simply diabolical and having made his decision on Gaff (in the positive) he keeps on playing him even though he makes Lucas look as hard as granite. He kept playing Masten when every man and his dog knew Ebert was a better player, leader and person. He also chose to play Cox for an entire season with a broken foot in a year they finished almost last.

He can be stubborn. To be fair Lycett hasn't done a lot at the top level, but the Eagles have more firepower up front and that's where I see Lycetts future.


:banghead: :banghead: Gaff is a really good footballer. Getting tagged every week. Masten's a pretty good footballer too. Got that way by playing senior footy. I know !@#$%& all about Scott Lycett - but if you reckon he's any good...I reckon we should give him a wide berth.


Gaff : getting tagged and struggling, light frame, hates getting tackled OUTSIDE AS THEY COME.
Masten better than Ebert? Good luck with that assessment.
Lycett, we shall see. I reckon he's a reasonable prospect. 20 years old, in the system for 3 years. BOG on the weekend and thats a few good games in a row.

As you remind me constantly Doc, it's a bit hard for you to judge on the other side of the country.


Gaff is a class act. Good user of the ball, makes excellent decisions and provides link and run around the ground.
Yes he's struggling to overcome tags but he's still young in footy terms. The point is, why do you think opposition clubs tag him?
Because they know his value.

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