no he needs a side full of hbfers.. he will deliver you a flag on the back of that and a broken down judd...

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I'd feel more comfortable with the balance of our list if we selected Jaksch instead of Menzel in last years draft - fingers crossed Menzel reaches his undoubted potential (and kis knee holds up) whilst Jaksch turns out to be Luke Livo Mark II.

Anyway a couple of players I hope the club are talking to is Frawley (Melb) and Taylor Adams (GWS).
The Dees might be expecting to losing Frawley as a free agent next year which would enable us to get him below market value. Recruiting him would allow us to play Hendo forward.
Adams looks like a quality big bodied young midfielder who hasn't yet re-signed with GWS.

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On the topic of trading for GWS number one, Kreuzer's off the ball work is in my opinion the best out of all three ruckmen.

When he goes past the ball, he hits opposition players hard. He blocks for team mates, does more of the one per cent type stuff.

He was also one of the better players for us against Sydney, and apart from a Pyke goal was probably the best ruckman on the ground.

I don't think he's who you trade off. Yarran on the other hand you can argue is someone you could trade off. He is not at the elite level, and may never be. He is the type of around-the-ground speedster that GWS need. We'd probably hurt in this space without him, but if you can get the best KPF and player in the upcoming draft by giving Yarran and your first pick up, you'd do it.

I'd rather keep Kreuzer, and off-trade one of Warnock or Hampson to secure another draft pick (or package for a player Mick wants).

Pyke was prominent when it mattered and was clearly stronger in the field ruck battles.

For me, Pyke took the choccies on the day.

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Probably because he impacted the scoreboard. Outside of that, it would have been almost a dead rubber between the two.

I can see why Lucas is called Sugar though... completely dissolves in water... I think he had the two worst kicks in the league this year in a single game.

The Boyd/Daisy double would be nice.

History suggests that we probably won't get either.

Five months of speculative blogging won't seal the deal.

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..don't like the Boyd/Daisy double at all.. ..that double is selling what little shred of soul the club has left.. ..most likely Krooz will be part of the deal to get Boyd.. ..Daisy will cost overs to get across from pies as restricted F.A.. ..so we ship off a loyal player that knocked back a huge contract to stick with the club, and bring in a cashed up merc..

..team culture would suck.. ..and it ain't too bright to begin with.. ..we shipped off Kennedy, he loved the club and didn't want to leave but did what was best for the club.. ..and now we wanna do the same with Krooz..

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Boyd will be 31 come August and as great as a player as he has been, I wouldn't want to give up anything to get him.

Free Agent? For sure.

..different Boyd, we're talking about the young KPF talent that may be pick 1 this year draft..

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My apologies.

Tom Boyd I'd sell for. A potential marquee gun FF of the like we haven't had for a long, long time. I'd sell within a reasonable price range.

Get used to it.
Free agency is with us.
To the players it's a job.
They go where the money is as a rule, just as you would if you got a better offer.
It's the supporters who have life long loyalty to a club. Players come and go and get traded and coach other teams against us.
Look at Goddard. Essendon* have done well there.
Before free agency it happened. Look at Barassi, Wade, Jezza, Lockett, Tippett, Judd. Happens all the time. And sometime playters don't want to leave but get traded. Sometimes we win and others we lose. Henderson anyone??

The powerbrokers at the club will not hesitate to do whatever they see as necessary with the list to get on field success. If they want the #1 pick, they'll trade for it and many of us will be pissed off because someone we love will go and we will lose a pick as well. Then the possibility of the best KP in the comp playing for us will ease the pain.

Try to think how Geelong supporters must have felt to lose Ablett. Gun player and F/S ties to the club. They haven't really missed a beat. It would be the same as us losing Murphy. Brace for it because one day someone will leave for more money.

Free agency is not going to go away. It will become the norm and club cultures will not be greatly affected by it. Player trading will not go away either. Brace yourself because this off season is going to be interesting and we will not all be happy with the fall out.

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Midfielders are attainable. I fully expect us to be targetting a number of these. I am not talking elite mids but those that can add polish and support our core mids. We will need to draft elite mids.
Our midfield rotations are too limited at present.

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....F.A is with us yes, but it's a team support and morale goes a long way.. ..and we're not working off a high level of talent like Cats, nor did they initiate the loss of Gazza.. ..would they have preferred to keep him, certainly.. ..would they be better off, certainly.... ..you think they haven't missed a beat, but i reckon Gazza would have come in handy during last years finals series hey.. ..and look how good they're traveling this year, and put Gazza in his form back in that team.. ..as i said elsewhere, Gazza in the cats team, has their hand on the flag every season..

..we've already shipped off one loyal player for 'the answer'.. ..except getting Judd in addressed a few major issues right away, and yet we're stuck with the same issue now that getting Judd in to us created in the first place, years later.. ..we still have no gun KPF coming up.. ..we have Hendo, but likewise being KPD down he's playing as CHB.. ..so now we must have Boyd, even though in the drafts we've passed over Talia [releasing Hendo fwd], Darling and Jaksch.. ..3 drafts in very recent times that we could have fixed these issues.. ..we package Krooz as part of the trade to get pick 1, and it won't be long before we're scrambling for a good ruck..

..and it's this more than just my favouritism towards the Krooz.. ..Krooz brings more to the team than simply his ability.. ..and considering how much our team lacks G&D, we need all we can get..

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I'd rookie list Ellard, and possibly Joseph for next year.

Whilst we probably need 12-14 changes. The talent on offer around the state leagues simply doesn't bat deep enough. Both are solid citizens and aren't the worst scenario for "last two" on our list, or anyone's list for that matter.

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Sorry, I don't recall mentioning Kreuzer.

Your rant was a nice read though and I agree in part.

Guts, determination and loyalty to the jumper will only get you so far on a quest for a premiership.

I would play with those three every game.

You also need talent and physical capabilities.

I don't fare to well with these.

We need to be realistic and place our sentimentalities aside. I would hope that the recruiting department and MM share this view.

We are a competitive side this year and every true contender would view playing us as a real 'danger' game.

The reality is, and we all know it, we need a minor rebuild and have to trade aggressively so our current crop of mid 20 year old players get a decent sniff at a flag before its too late.

It hurts a bit as a supporter but teams like Richmond have taken their medicine and are now kicking our butt in every way.

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..Mikey, you didn't mention Krooz as part of Boyd deal but it seems that's possibly what it will take.. ..krooz and our 1st rounder, or maybe yazz and our 1st rounder.... ..usually getting pick 1 will cost..

..yes i agree players need ability to go along with their G&D.. ..krooz has both.. ..we dont have enough players with both..

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Agree. But I don't want anymore flash / slick type players. We need players that are regular and reliable.

I don't want anyone who is a likely mark of the year or kicking goal of the year ... a lot of these types are not there when it matters.

I want something like a Ryan O'Keefe ... regular and reliable.

We missed out on him about three seasons ago when we couldn't get a trade week deal done - he would have been exactly what we needed, and what speaks very negatively about our list, may well be Carlton Captain right now if we had of picked him up back then.

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As a point of interest, I'd be interested in seeing everyone's list of the bottom 10 players on our list. Best to worst, most useful to least, most upside to least, whatever criteria you want to use for it.

If you're satisfied with the 10th or 9th worst player at our club now being the worst at the end of the year, they probably shouldn't get delisted (or at least be re-rookied)

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