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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:51 pm 
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Our forward line setup let us down tonight. We just don't setup well or play as a unit up there. It's frustrating.


I don't recall any time we actually moved the ball into our forward 50 under control without the area being full of Swans players.

At the other end though, there were several occasions this happened, particularly when Tippett kicked his goals. I think that was the difference - Sydney were better at blocking our movement forward at all times.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:53 pm 
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not good enough for long enough. Same story all year in all our wins and losses. Not very convincing all year - we are team that's grip on the season is slipping slowly. The list is hanging in there for dear life and this group are clearly not going to take us far.
Judd is ageing and trying his best, as are Simpson and Scotland.
We fall away very quickly after that based on tonight's team.
We are covering all our cracks, and teams are uncovering them and exploiting them.
The clubs' recruitment and development has been poor and exposed this year with players in past years selected as high picks that haven't come on or are struggling - Watson, McCarthy, Davies, Lucas, Mitchell, etc. Strike rate has been poor since the draft inception.
We rely on rookie picks to lead our midfield who are, at best, good fill in defensive players.
Game has changed heaps and our list is not conducive to the modern game - good honourable losses don't cut it.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:53 pm 
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Malthouse: "Marc Murphy will speak to his surgeon this week."
Malthouse: "We matched them with inside 50s. We had some players who played some pretty good football, and some that didn't."
Malthouse: "We're a better side than we were at the start of the year."
Malthouse: "We gave up the first quarter. Execution in the third quarter could have been better."
Malthouse: "Sydney is a very, very good football side. It was always going to take a while to adjust to the conditions."



And to Mick, "What mistakes did you make as a coach/selector?"

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:55 pm 
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I've never really been a duigan fan and doubt he'll be on a list next year but he would have been perfect for tonight I reckon.

dissagree with the bootsma bashers too


I reckon if you could have guessed the conditions Duigan would have been a cert.

But that was some very special weather.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:01 am 
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Not sure about Duigan. Big body yeah, but his fumbling would have been exposed even more in these conditions. Same with Bell.

Sydney had the combination of size, and were much cleaner. One touch. More natural footballers.

Game was always going to be a midfield battle in these conditions. Ruckman were nearly irrelevant, neither side had a dangerous small forward - McGlynn probably the pick of the them - and both 1 dominant tall (Tippett/Henderson).

In the end it felt like Parker, Mitchell, Hanneberry, McVeigh, Kennedy, Jack, and ROK vs Judd, Gibbs and some hard triers.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:11 am 
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We are seriously crap with some seriously dumb footballers
They were clueless out there tonight

Good meeting up with Moshe Doc Kk Agro Rhino and colourman

They sucked us in thinking we could snatch the game but you could see it was just a matter of time before they ran over us

Walker had a chance to seize momentuem but went with the dribble kick just plain dumb

But one thing came out of the night I saw the worst umpiring decision ever the deliberate point and free kick to Bootsma was a joke

We wont be any good until all those players who played in the spoon teams are gone
Mentally weak and dumb decision makers along with shit disposal

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:11 am 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:12 am 
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Blueboy74 wrote:
Not sure about Duigan. Big body yeah, but his fumbling would have been exposed even more in these conditions. Same with Bell.

Sydney had the combination of size, and were much cleaner. One touch. More natural footballers.

Game was always going to be a midfield battle in these conditions. Ruckman were nearly irrelevant, neither side had a dangerous small forward - McGlynn probably the pick of the them - and both 1 dominant tall (Tippett/Henderson).

In the end it felt like Parker, Mitchell, Hanneberry, McVeigh, Kennedy, Jack, and ROK vs Judd, Gibbs and some hard triers.


I think Duigan is cooked but I just thought we had a couple of guys who didn't provide contests.

I haven't seen the tackle count but I reckon we were even or better than them, but due to a few guys repeatedly being second to the ball and I think a few of them wanted to be second because its a little easier.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:15 am 
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
Less than 2 goals in it, Henderson gathers the ball inside D50, is tackled immediately, ball held to him and is penalised. That ended the game right there.

Throw the ball
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Just don't gather ball if you're going to be tackled


It was 3 on one Hendo had every right to go for that ball the other two blues should have provided a block
Stupid footballers to many of them in this team

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:18 am 
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not good enough for long enough. Same story all year in all our wins and losses. Not very convincing all year - we are team that's grip on the season is slipping slowly. The list is hanging in there for dear life and this group are clearly not going to take us far.
Judd is ageing and trying his best, as are Simpson and Scotland.
We fall away very quickly after that based on tonight's team.
We are covering all our cracks, and teams are uncovering them and exploiting them.
The clubs' recruitment and development has been poor and exposed this year with players in past years selected as high picks that haven't come on or are struggling - Watson, McCarthy, Davies, Lucas, Mitchell, etc. Strike rate has been poor since the draft inception.
We rely on rookie picks to lead our midfield who are, at best, good fill in defensive players.
Game has changed heaps and our list is not conducive to the modern game - good honourable losses don't cut it.




Sadly I agree

We really needed a goal during the middle phase of the last qtr to bring it back to 3 points & give Sydney the shakes. But we just weren't good enough.

Hendo amazing, shame about the end, probably should've paddled or soccered it - but hard to criticise the guy after his efforts tonight.

Judd had his moments & tried as always.

Simmo terrific again, has lifted very well the last few weeks.

Cachia continues to impress.

Our forward line is weird. We are just too dependant on our smalls...

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:23 am 
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Oh, & Tippett looked like he'd been training with Essendon* on his 11 weeks off.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:24 am 
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CK95 wrote:
Wangers wrote:
not good enough for long enough. Same story all year in all our wins and losses. Not very convincing all year - we are team that's grip on the season is slipping slowly. The list is hanging in there for dear life and this group are clearly not going to take us far.
Judd is ageing and trying his best, as are Simpson and Scotland.
We fall away very quickly after that based on tonight's team.
We are covering all our cracks, and teams are uncovering them and exploiting them.
The clubs' recruitment and development has been poor and exposed this year with players in past years selected as high picks that haven't come on or are struggling - Watson, McCarthy, Davies, Lucas, Mitchell, etc. Strike rate has been poor since the draft inception.
We rely on rookie picks to lead our midfield who are, at best, good fill in defensive players.
Game has changed heaps and our list is not conducive to the modern game - good honourable losses don't cut it.




Sadly I agree

We really needed a goal during the middle phase of the last qtr to bring it back to 3 points & give Sydney the shakes. But we just weren't good enough.

Hendo amazing, shame about the end, probably should've paddled or soccered it - but hard to criticise the guy after his efforts tonight.

Judd had his moments & tried as always.

Simmo terrific again, has lifted very well the last few weeks.

Cachia continues to impress.

Our forward line is weird. We are just too dependant on our smalls...


Which would be fine if they could get near it.

Really needed more tonight . Particularly feel a bit let down by Eddie recently, he's got to be better when it's hard.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:25 am 
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Oh, & Tippett looked like he'd been training with Essendon* on his 11 weeks off.


Nah, all those Adelaide blokes are huge.

Wonder why?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:29 am 
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Malthouse has evened us out with his defensive approach. Before we were often brilliant, some times atrocious. Now we are average. Not great, not bad.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:31 am 
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They played us on the break in the first quarter ... MM ... surely you have played and coached enough wet weather football to know that in those conditions you play on the break ... only one forward required in the front forward line ... one forward deep with his back to the goal ... the rest front and centre for the receive or the ball over the top.

Armfield should have played between the arcs because we lacked leg speed there ... getting second to the ball and slow to run them down in the middle. Somebody else could have taken McVeigh to stop his run from half back because "run" was difficult in these conditions.

The Walker miss could have been the difference ... that's how fickle football is ... the pressure would have been on Sydney to defend a 3 point lead and as you have all seen with us against Essendon* and West Coast against Essendon*, you just don't defend a lead.

All up the conditions worked great for them.

Us ... first touch woeful ... inability to get it in one go, stand up, compose and kick balanced ... It looked to me like every kick Cachia got he was hunched over and kicked off no step.

Mono paced players with poor disposal and decision making equals very shithouse recruiting.

I am concerned that our small losing margins have primarily come from our emphasis on negating.

Very poor decision last week to not play the likes of Betts, Yarran, Bootsma and Casboult in the Northern Blues. Just how much footy has Betts played this year ??? ... Yarran ... how much footy has he played the last month ??? ... Bootsma could have done with the run as a confidence boost and Casboult just has to keep on playing to establish rythym.

We are a strange set up of a team ... our forward line is predominantly made up of spectacular types .... slick types ... but which one is "regular and reliable" ... we could do with a Lachie Henderson type in our forward line right now.

Sydney were well depleted ... we should have won this.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:50 am 
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Lost to a weakened swans team with 5 first year players. Longmire had the audacity to bring in a first gamer against us! Obviously doesn't rate us, NO FEAR against the blues. Bugger it we are not much chop. A mediocre team who will struggle to win enough games to sneak into the top 8.

So it's time to bring in the aggressive types and go down swinging. AJ, Davies, Duigan etc come on down and just maybe let the opposition hesitate a little.

Clubs seriously consider us a soft team....it shows!


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:01 am 
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Average. We are so average.

Some people think we are improving but honestly I don't see it. Losing is losing. Who honestly thought we would win tonight, even when we got close? Not me. Belief is not there because we continually can't get the job done. Don't see that trend changing any time soon.

Oh and losing flower sucks.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:03 am 
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Im going to get hammered for this but a guy who grew up playing rugby in Canada is a better ruckmen than Kreuzer, yes he gives his all but not good enough for a No1 draft pick.



He certainly had the better of Kreuzer tonight, which is very disappointing.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:08 am 
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Thankgod we have mick or this season would be real ugly

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:20 am 
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I'm done with this season.

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