When Synbad talks about Lance, he is stating the FACTS

Many said Lance would reward us if we stuck with him this year

And when given the opportunity up forward, he did nothing and had to be moved down back as a loose man to be of any use

P.O.W GWS.

Yeh Lance is a nice guy, wanting $400K for doing what. Being a back line sweeper. He cannot take a mark in the forward line anymore. Livingston, Prenda, Clarke are nice guys. Big shit, can they play footy.

Yeh Fev is a moron sometimes, but gee can he play footy. I know which player I would like to see.

If I wanted to see nice guys, I will go to a church choir and see them all I like.

As for you bagging Synbad, he is stating the truth and facts. I will say it again Whitnall, Campo, Lappin, and Kouta. Nice guys but sucking us dry. Nice guys will not win us games of footy. And the reason they are nice, is because the club bends over backwards to please them.

They are not so nice now are they. Sooking because the club OWES them.

By the way everyone has their own opinions, and stop bagging people who have one. I dont care who wants to bag me for wanting to get rid of our so called leaders. I love this club, and have been supporting them for 25 years. I bleed for this club and feel that I know it back to front. I am not naive and just looking at what these players have done in the past. As far as I am concerned who gives a shit. It is what they are doing now.

Poor Whitnall, he is unhappy with Fev's signing. It makes me sick. Nice guy yeah, bagging a team mate who would win a game off his own boot. What the hell has he done. I am sure all the little kids want to go and see Big Red play. Please, get real.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hmmm.

We shouldnt believe a word Synbad says because he openly hates Whitnall?



So does this mean we shouldnt believe any of the tripe that comes out of your mouth?

Thanks for the advice!

Move along citizens, nothing to see here.

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The more I hear from Ricky Nixon the more I think he's just a jumped up David Allison wannabe.

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That doesn't even make sense?!

If you look through our list Lance is more valuable and a better footballer than most of the rest of the players combined, no matter what you say. You say when Synbad is talking about Lance he is stating the FACTS, well I'm saying here that Lance is better than most others on our list and I reckon that's FACT.

We're not where we are because of Lance Whitnall, we're where we are because the players below players like Whitnall are not up to it as a collective group. I've said it before but we ideally would be ADDING to Lance. Of course, if we get a really good deal then he is tradeable, like most players. But I'm sick of reading this rubbish about Lance when he is so much better than 3/4 of our list it isn't even funny.

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What would you be prepared to pay Lance BB05?

In what terms is he better than most of the players on our list, BB05?

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Perhaps the fact that Lance is demanding 1/15th of our TPP (which is a large paycut according to his manager) is the reason our list is shit.

If Kouta, Campo,Lance and Stevens have been swallowing 30% of our TPP, how would you suggest we assemble a quality list BB2005?

Yes, its easy to be better than 3/4 of our list at the moment.
i'm sure Lance can hang his hat on that.

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$350k Effes, no more than $400k. I think he'll re-sign for 350k anyway.

But that's not even the point.

I'm sick of people speaking of Lance as if he can't play footy. It's absolute crap. Whether he stays or goes most of the players on our list currently are vastly inferior footballers to him.

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Are you happy with the clubs stance given that Collo said earlier on radio this year that our first offer to Lance wouldn't change?

Well?

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Or alternatively the fact that we have too many average players is the reason why our list is shit BV?

Lance, Kouta etc have been on too much money. When they signed those contracts they were worth every cent. Same goes for Campo. Now that their value is less as they've become older, they're taking paycuts, Lance will be on over 100k less, Campo on less than half, Kouta is still something of a millstone around our necks. We had to pay over the odds for Stevens BV, we both know that.

It's not about Lance hanging his hat on anything BV, it's about TC posters speaking of Lance as if he is some sort of dud when it's glaringly obvious that ability-wise, Lance is one of the least of our concerns.

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More footballing ability pj.

The players I would say are more valuable going forward are Stevens, Waite, Fevola, Walker, Fisher and Carrazzo. Possibly Russell, Bentick etc in the future. In any case, there are now 7/8 players who are more valuable to us than Lance. One or two of those are debatable too.

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At what stage of the season exactly did he say it Effes?

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I'm fairly sure it came at the time when he made the "C to Z" grade comment

I'd say around round 10-15

So before Lance had his good second half of the year? Lance's form (rightly or wrongly) would have forced Collo to re-assess his comment.

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You're missing my point BB2005.
We dont have a good list because we couldnt afford one.
You cant blame the lesser players for not being good enough.

We've had 4 players swallowing about 2 mill out of our TPP.
That leaves about 4 million for 35 players.
What do you expect for that?
The balance of our list is atrocious.
We have to make big changes to our payment structure now.
If we lose 2 or 3 quality players in favour of kids, it has to be done.

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hang on so now lance's contract is less because he is getting older????? Gee i would have thought he was heading into his prime... But no, he is in decline like Kouta and campo. Lance, the 30 something veteran.

Actually Lance is cream but we have stuff all to spread that cream on. As cream he must be one of the firdst expendable as we muster some firmer stuff.

Problem is the club and many here, myself included, thought early on he was a CHF to build a forward line around. Na. No way. And if we continue to think he is/and pay him as if he is then we will remain shite.

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