They cant... BS says Collingwood!!!

No mention of GWS... just Collingwood... in BSs correction of the guys list....

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Since Giles got his big deal he has bludged, so GWS should definitely be in the market for one of the ruckmen.

Bellchambers will be another potentially on the market.

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You obviously rate the potential of our list too high(ly) and you probably think Carlton's record in the draft is the default one.

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If Watson gets re-signed it would be huge mistake.

If he was picked with Mitchell's slot he would be cut. He would only be kept because we wasted a high pick on him, and of course the biggest mistake of all would be to try and hide the mistake by pushing it out another 12 months.

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Last night on fox, the guys on the couch highlighted a passage of play during the 3rd quarter that
cost us a goal.IF you get a chance, please watch it again but be sure to have a bucket on hand as your very likely to get sick watching it. Its the goal at about 8.30 remaining on the clock (Walker looses a one on one in the square resulting in a goal).

If you look at the passage of play again, watch LUCAS. He drops the ball inside forward 50, which can happen to any player but
happened to Lucas because the heat was on and he had a quick look at what was approaching. But, more importantly, watch his effort when he falls to his knees trying to recover the ball unopposed and S**** himself thinking he is about to get front on contact.He ducks his head to an imaginary defender and doesn't get close to the ball. He got scared of the footsteps.
Than, his half heated effort to get up and chase is the icing on the cake. The ball rebounds and it results in a goal at the other end.

I said at the time it was a momentum killer.Lucas is a momentum killer.He was responsible for the same thing against the dons the week before.Most hanged him for the missed goal 5 meters in front against the dons, but a passage of play 3 minutes before that was the momentum killer.

I find it very hard to believe that a hard nosed coach like MM is going to put up with that type of horse shit for any longer than needs be.
I am certain MM didnt miss the incident in the 3rd term on Friday night.
I wouldn't be so sure with your assertion that that "Lucas isnt going anywhere".

I wrote this on another page or topic.

I think Yarran has landed himself in some strife and wouldn't be surprised if Mick puts him up for trade at the end of the year. I doubt anyone who tells the senior coach to f a r k off you old t n u c when instructed to do something he didn't want to do is pathetic. It made me furious that someone like him could be so disrespectful to a senior figure in charge of the club

Do you think GWS would swap their number one draft pick for Yarran and Warnock

i actually think those words will be the making of yarran...
sometimes thats how it happens

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its not momentum killing.... its kane lucas

malthouse had yarran and lucas on his plate after Essendon*
he beheaded yarran....

and he demoted lucas to bench boy.... also because he didnt want to blame lucas for that loss by necking him too....

he did the right thing in that case.. he couldnt drop lucas for a group effort loss cos it would look like lucas lost us the Essendon* game...

but yeah.... he has frustrated the hell out of me this year watching him....i dont think he can fix his deficiencies.. theyre things ur born with.. but they cant be part of finals footy.... he cant be part of this...

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..possibly, but will it be with us..??..

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look i think gen y r super sensitive.. and yarran is more sensitive than others due to his life...

but in the end... hes still a grown up .. and people use their pride for the right reasons.

malthouse is pretty smart.. hes seen it all before.. and he will handle him

he knows what he has in yarran... he just needs to tap into it.. and i know he will... if yarran runs away from this he wont make it anywhere...i mean he will make it cos he played afl footy.. even lucas made it... but im talking about it.. making it making it!!!

you cannot run away from a challenge when u have never maxed yurself out.. it means he will never max himself out

he can max himself out and then run away.... and choose to live and do what he likes.. yarran has never proven himself .. jjust given glimpses.

he will see that!!!... and malthouse will get it out of him...

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Lucas will have buyer beware stamped all over him so part of Mick's job will be ensuring players who may have their papers stamped still have appeal to other clubs.
Yarran won't be traded in a hurry but if someone really wants him & is prepared to pay the price ...
Massive second half of the season for the boy. Least it has been brought to a head now.

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And how do you know that is what Yarran supposedly said to the coach?

That's the trick, isn't it.

If we drop out of final eight contention sooner rather than later (entirely possible), I think Laidler comes back in, and Lucas will continue to get games. Of those we might be thinking of delisting with senior experience, I'm not sure that anyone beyond those two would warrant even that, nor could we afford any spots which could otherwise be given to Menzel, Graham, Buckley et al.

It wasn't great.

But we went on to lose the next 4 or 5 contests in a row. which allowed the ball to go the length of the field (via the boundary) and led to a goal.

No matter Lucas' effort initially it needed better from everyone else as well.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

The chain was Lucas, Rowe, Garlett, Jamison, Touhy, Walker they all got beaten or fumbled.

What if Lucas did something heroic for once?

Seen it from the others.....

Lucas can set the tone with how he plays.

Lucas is Lucas.

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Watson
Collins
McCarthy
Davies
Duigan
Joesph

Certainties.

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McCarthy and Watson are far from certainties, if you're talking about them being delisted.
No one even seems to know the tenure of the contract they signed last year. Was it only a one year or the more likely two year seeing them out to end 2014?
The other four would need to pull a large rabbit out of somewhere to hang on.

There are plenty others though not guaranteed for next year also.
O'Keeffe and Dale will be looked at hard and especially if promotion is a pre-requisite of them remaining on the list. (I'm not sure we can just leave O'Keeffe on the rookie list)

Tradables: Hampson/Warnock, Lucas, Ellard, Laidler and White.
I doubt that Rowe would be guaranteed a new contract just yet either.

Even if we did quit/trade 8-10 players, it will likely come from the names mentioned here.
Yes, we can talk about Yarran, Gibbs, Kreuzer and anyone else one wants to name but they're highly unlikely and they're all contracted anyway.

There's a clean out on its way. That you can bank on.