Rogers. No 'd'. We all know that Cimm...as for strengths...nah...he's still there because we're mediocre and Sticks and Swann call the shots. Wouldn't get a gig anywhere else. But I'm all ears if Cazz wants to enlighten us. You can only defend the recruiting so much.

how good are you at reading pictures???


yes in another 5 years we can assess rogers

just as melbourne assesed prendergast... and we brought him in as forward scout....

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Better than alright eh Doc? Just a little.

Shane Rogers is the man now, no point looking back.

Menzel and Cachia look ok Graham had good reports. This year must have been tricky with no input from the senior coach.

Small steps right.?

Need to start getting it right though, I think some people are impatient .

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Why is he still there, if by his demotion the club has admitted he didn't perform to expectations ....... contract?

The 'heart' of the club was ripped out long ago, it went the same way as the guts.

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youd think that a guy who is being demoted all the time...but is a good head recruiter as cazzesman loves to point out.. can get a job at another club????
our recruiter is now "third banana" as u so eloquently put it....

after his apprentice and a guy who geelong didnt even bother putting on a contract.... but he was our main man.. and hes still around the club ....even after he [REDACTED] up a stack of picks..... everybody slid to us....
From the old Freo system was he?
Flakey old Freo eh????

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Bret Thornton did alright for a rookie.

Jamo is an excellent defender at the peak of his powers and we have a lack of good KPP's.

Madness unless someone offers us something ridiculous (ie. GWS give us Jeremy Cameron).

I'm not defending the recruiting. I'm simply saying you're wrong about Jamison and you forgot that Shane Rogers (without a d) exists.

Plenty of mistakes in recruiting but no need to throw Jammo in there .

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Another glossed over problem is we don't have enough people employed in recruiting/scouting.

You're god damn right I'm impatient!

Then let's agree to disagree. I would trade Jamison in a heartbeat. You rate him highly and would keep him on the list another year (contract expires 2014). End of discussion, but at least acknowledge that to get something good, something good must be given up. I like Rob Warnock, but this is a business...don't hold onto the notion of loyalty in 2013, because it won't deliver you a flag and that's what the goal is.

Hey Doc,

Interested in your thoughts re Tim Golds - seems to be unable to get a game at GWS so we'd probably be able to get him but also have to ask why he can't get a game at GWS?

Cheers
OR

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impatient !?!?!?

18 years since our last flag

minimal success at all this millenium

hardly impatience

but its ok to keep accepting the mediocrity

keep it going along and we will all be dead before carlton taste success again

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Very happy for all positions to be reviewed.

The ruck situation is a likely start and watching Sydney we simply have to get more hard running quality ball users.

I really hope Shane and his crew have the skills to get them.

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Yeah to be honest I thought once he made his debut last year he'd stay in. GWS seem to prefer the more solid boys. Golds has a lovely kick, finds space, good footy brain....20 now and I think he'll play a little more this year. Of course his Dad is employed by Carlton...could be a reverse Scully.

After Friday Night (and it took me a little more than 2 minutes ) I finally see it your way , he was terrible.

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Without the benefit of being at the ground on Friday night, it seemed like we were doing all we could to hide Jamison.

Onto the matter of Hughes, you guys are harsh. He spent the best part of a decade recruiting half back flankers, but he got so much better at it. McInnes and Bootsma are miles ahead of Clinton Benjamin, Marcus Davies, Jordan Russell, and Paul Bower. He finally perfects the art of drafting the half back flanker and we demote him? Short-sighted... he was probably about to spend the next decade perfecting the art of drafting the half forward flanker. On those calculations he'd be ready to target the midfield by about 2022.

Hughes made his mistakes, but all recruiters do (except Wells maybe and the guy from Sydney). For those of you having a crack at Hughes, pick a club each and analyse their recruiting over the last decade.

You're going to find just as many misses.

Doc, you want to trade Jamo as you say you have to trade quality to get quality. Firstly, you don't rate him so in your eyes he isn't quality. What do you think we'd get from GWS? Secondly, who do you see filling the KD slots in 2014 if Jamo is moved on?

If we want a shake up we do have to look at our untouchables. No point de-listing Duigan, Davies and Joseph and thinking its going to change things. Have to be very careful doing it. Trading someone like Kreuzer who was emphatic in his loyalty to the club wouldn't be a good look, but that doesn't mean you rule it out completely.

Malthouse is the only person at the club who would have the balls to do it. I don't think anyone else would.

Its going to be an interesting off season.

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hughes is terrible.... he cost us big time.

if someone posts his draftees and gives us where those draftees are at right now youll get a clearer picture of the horror

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If someone posts about Richmond or the Bulldogs recruitment you're going to see the same story.

You wanted us to tank so we could rebuild faster. You told us recruiting was no longer hit or miss. Are you really angry with Hughes or yourself for being wrong?

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